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Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture
- download13 6y agoMultiple PiP is a great idea
- mxxx 6y agoPiP is one of those things that never seemed particularly useful to me until I started using it, and now it’s one of my favourite features
- agumonkey 6y agoFor some odd reason I don't get the PiP icon on the firefox demo video. It works well on different youtube videos though :)
- arprocter 6y agoBy default the button only shows on videos over 45 secs long You can change the default in about:config media.videocontrols.picture-in-picture.video-toggle.min-video-secs
- Andrew_nenakhov 6y agoCool. But I alreasy had everything I wanted in Firefox, but one thing. Can I please have a non-buggy backdrop-filter: blur enabled and working by default in my Fitefox?
- pineconewarrior 6y agoI believe that property is still in the draft phase. I'm sure they'll implement it properly soon.
- floatingatoll 6y agoPlease don’t derail threads like this. Your comment is so generic that it could be posted to any of a hundred different posts completely unchanged, which means it has nothing to do with the post at all. Write a blog post about it and post that to HN if you want your feature request to receive attention.
- ducktective 6y agoGood to see that in last few releases, no needless UI changes were introduced (which were causing dramas in the past).
- ronjouch 6y agoBrace yourself: major UI revamp coming around Firefox 89, https://google.com/search?q=firefox%20proton https://google.com/search?q=firefox%20proton
- ngngngng 6y ago> The new Proton interface is much easier on the eye the original interface. It looks almost exactly the same to me, just a couple things shuffled around. Anyway, I think it's perfect exactly how it is.
- agilob 6y agooh no, the megabar is still there
- ThePowerOfFuet 6y agohttps://duckduckgo.com/?q=Firefox+Proton https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Firefox+Proton
- Grakel 6y agoRIP CTRL-SHIFT-B
- avolcano 6y agoThe technical details of Total Cookie Protection are going to be of interest to any web dev: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Privacy/State_Partitioning https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Pri... It's not enabled by default (it's part of Strict privacy controls), but I think the heuristics it's using might be copied by other browser or extensions implementing similar features. I don't love the amount of "heuristics-based" features being added to browsers, since they're not always easy to discover as a developer, but it's certainly better than a whitelist/blacklist system like Google"s used for certain features. The console.log entries that article mentions should help a bit with debugging as well.
- SilasX 6y agoWe just had a big thread about Total Cookie Protection: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26237404 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26237404
- noizejoy 6y agoUnfortunately the top of that thread is now pretty much about another project/topic
- scrooched_moose 6y agoIs there a possibility sites just begin blocking Firefox? It's only ~8% of the desktop market share and ~4% across all devices. It doesn't seem inconceivable sites just give up supporting it if they're not getting the ad revenue.
- elktea 6y agotechnically impossible, firefox would be forced to pretend to be another browser.
- nathancahill 6y agoWhat, you mean like this? (from Chrome) Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/78.0.3904.108 Safari/537.36
- slimsag 6y agoWith fingerprinting it's not impossible. Quoting a recent Webkit thread[1] in which Google blocked all sign in from non-Safari WebKit browsers: > But if Google does this properly and uses more sophisticated browser fingerprinting techniques, Epiphany is done for. This could be an existential threat for non-Safari WebKit browsers. Nobody is going to be interested in using a browser that doesn't support Google websites. Google's expressly-stated goal is to block embedded browser frameworks and non-supported browsers from signing into Google accounts. The blog post says: "This block affects CEF-based apps and other non-supported browsers." It says: "We do not allow sign-in from browsers based on frameworks like CEF or Embedded Internet Explorer." [1] https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2020-November/031604.html https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2020-November/...
- elktea 6y agowow, if you're still using chrome it might be time to re-asses that.
- npteljes 6y agoEven if technically impossible, by simply not supporting it - which is already happening - FF will just lose additional market share. I'm at a point where I keep an additional Chromium installed along with my nicely configured FF, because of how many sites doesn't work.
- corobo 6y agoAnd ads in the address bar search results. https://twitter.com/CohanRobinson/status/1364172683118866433 https://twitter.com/CohanRobinson/status/1364172683118866433 E: saved you a click on my own link. In about:config you can disable this by setting the following to false browser.newtabpage.activity-stream.showSponsored browser.newtabpage.activity-stream.showSponsoredTopSites
- foofoo4u 6y agoI make monthly donations to Mozilla to support their cause. I will stop my donations and migrate to a different browser if they continue down this path.
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- stunt 6y agoYou can disable it. It isn't actually ads, it's sponsored link and the sponsor isn't tracking you (at least not until you click..) browser.newtabpage.activity-stream.showSponsored browser.newtabpage.activity-stream.showSponsoredTopSites
- djbebs 6y agoThats called an ad. Mozilla is receiving money to show me something, thats what ad agencies do.
- gcthomas 6y agoWe get the browser for free and these are just ads, not trackers - they are not stealing our data like Chrome, FB, and the rest. I have nothing against straight ads.
- SubiculumCode 6y agoI agree. But I use those links for quick links to site I visit a lot. THis gets in my way
- dbg31415 6y agoCool, but when will they release a feature that makes it so I can run a Zoom call without turning my MBP into a toaster hot enough to melt diamonds?
- rnestler 6y agoZoom is a different software, so I don't really see a connection to Firefox. Am I missing something?
- dbg31415 6y agoZoom calls in Firefox -- a lot of people don't download the software but just run it in browser.
- themacguffinman 6y agoDoes it run hotter than in other browsers? It seems likely that it's Zoom's problem.
- dbg31415 6y agoIt's all streaming. Twitch, YouTube. Running any of those on Firefox, vs. other browsers, is a lot hotter. I did a post about it and according to Apple's "Energy Usage" Firefox was like 50x higher than Safari and 30x higher than Chrome on the same sort of streaming call. Try it for yourself next time you're on a Zoom call. Firefox is my browser of choice, but so annoying that they don't take battery use / optimization seriously.
- drunner 6y agoThis is what happens when apple forces browsers to use Safari's rendering engine. Could it be better, sure. Use an OS that allows Firefox to use its own renderer if it bugs you that much.
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- difosfor 6y agoI guess multi PiP makes sense. But I'd really like to be able to show any element in PiP, not just videos
- morsch 6y agoI used to have an add-on that did exactly this. Don't know if it made the Web extension jump.
- difosfor 6y agoActually, what I'd really like is to be able to use PiP through the standard https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Picture-in-Picture_API https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Picture-in-... at all
- pentagrama 6y agoI find useful the Picture-in-Picture feature when was introduced, but find it really annoying that the icon has to be visible on every video (on mouse hover), and I disable it. Hope they introduce an option to show a PiP icon on the address bar when a video is on the tab, which is less intrusive, like the Reader View icon/feature.
- morsch 6y agoThat's a terrible UI for pages with multiple videos.
- pentagrama 6y agoDisagree. When the page has multiple videos, the icon can show options to PiP them individually or PiP them all. Also users should still have the option to show the PiP button over each video.
- msk20 6y agoIs there any privacy benifit to use containers now with the new isolations built into firefox? I'm using cookie autodelete + Containers, So now its either isolate and keep them or Isolate and delete them. I quite like this.
- stunt 6y agoContainers aren't going to give you additional protection against third-party cookies with this feature. But, you still have other useful benefits like having different sessions open on the same websites using containers, or just grouping websites by forcing them into specific containers (Work/Personal/Random etc..).
- rakoo 6y agoI'm not the one who asked the question but am in the same position. All third-party content is off, I'm using a long-term container for stuff where I need to be logged, and temporary containers and no first-party cookies for everything else. I do have some bugs with the interaction of both so I'm happy if I can have the same think with stock Firefox
- pineconewarrior 6y agoI use containers to maintain multiple logins for the same site. It's handy to log in to the analytics + hosting account etc all in one container.
- cassepipe 6y agoI was wondering : What is the purpose of picture in picture? I don't have any use case for it and was curious about who does.
- kbenson 6y agoI haven't used it much, but it does allow you to not have to pull a tab out for youtube or the like if you want to watch something on the side while doing something else, and it does it with zero extra interface, which is nice (it's always annoying when I want to resize a video in the window to take almost all the window size and there's useless padding I can't easily bypass).
- cardamomo 6y agoI've used it when I am multitasking (watching something fun while "working") or while taking notes on the video.
- mrspeaker 6y agoSame - especially when there's a rocket launch or other long-running stream. I shrink the PIP view to a tiny thumbnail in a corner of the screen so I don't miss anything.
- gcthomas 6y agoI use it to make it easy to pass the video only to OBS Studio - the video shows up as a separate window.
- dhritzkiv 6y agoI use PiP in Safari, and I find it useful for watching a video in a small window in the corner of my screen without having to keep the page the video was on (YouTube, etc.) open. That way, I can watch the video while reading other tabs, or working in other windows. It's nice because PiP (at least Safari's/macOS' implementation) keeps the video above all other windows, and it even carries over into other Spaces. In short: multitasking.
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- PoignardAzur 6y agoStill no subtitles for picture-in-picture though =(
- millzlane 6y agoI'm not complaining I asked for multiple picture-in-picture.
- ycombinete 6y agoWhat do people use Picture in Picture for? I have still never found a use for it, on any of the devices I have that support it.
- nsomaru 6y agoKeep a small video playing a local Comission of inquiry whilst working
- kome 6y agowatching a video while you browse other stuff
- symlinkk 6y agoCan’t you just...pop out the window like any other? I don’t get it
- mcintyre1994 6y agoYou can, but it’ll just be a window then with all the rest of the stuff on that webpage and all the browser/OS chrome taking up space. PiP you just get that video independently and nothing else taking up space.
- jhasse 6y agotoo much wasted space. Also some sites shrink down the video if you shrink down the window (i.e. no theater mode).
- hombre_fatal 6y agoDoes that stay on top of all windows and use minimal UI chrome?
- Vinnl 6y agoI most often use it when reading a news article that has a short clip, to be able to scroll down to read the rest of the article while playing the clip so I can keep an eye on when the interesting part comes. Also for keeping covid press conferences open while I do other stuff. I could move the tab to a new window and then resize it to only show the video, but this is far less effort.
- t0mas88 6y ago> If a tracker tracker.example (as classified by the Enhanced Tracking Protection) redirects to a non-tracker a.example and tracker.example received user interaction as a first-party within the last 45 days, tracker.example is granted storage access to a.example for 15 minutes. Why is Mozilla creating a special exception for Facebook (and Google) while those two are the worst privacy invaders?
- ybbond 6y agobut still no shortcut to show PiP. also no shortcut to pin and unpin tab. Firefox is great, major downsides for me are the lack of good shortcut (especially for macOS).