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What if AI just wants to watch Star Trek reruns and browse Porn Hub? As is so often the case when humanity creates intelligences.
by zxcvbn4038 6y ago
What if AI just wants to watch Star Trek reruns and browse Porn Hub? As is so often the case when humanity creates intelligences.
- mStreamTeam 6y agoThat would be an improvement from previous AIs which have become racist. https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/artificial-intelligence/machine-learning/in-2016-microsofts-racist-chatbot-revealed-the-dangers-of-online-conversation https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/artificial-intelligence/...
- superbcarrot 6y agoThey trained a language model on twitter data and extracted some of the sentiment from the training set. The antropomorphic language of "AIs which have become" is misleading.
- chromanoid 6y agoYeah, the developers made the algorithm racist by incorporating racist texts in the training phase. Shit in shit out...
- LesZedCB 6y agotraining data will always reflect the culture which generated it
- sitkack 6y agoAIs most powerful feature might be a lens into human behavior and psyche. Who knows how it will turn out. I think an AI might run meetings better than humans, it might even make a better manager.
- LesZedCB 6y agophilosophers have been doing that for millenia. some have made material changes to society, and others haven't. some have questioned the validity of "material change" being a good metric in the first place. personally, i believe philosophy is the most important starting point for any discussion about AI. and i really hope that AI helps more than making office work a little less tedious...
- zxcvbn4038 6y agoNobody considers that maybe AI doesn’t want to do tedious work either. Wasn’t that the start of the human/machine conflict in The Matrix? Some poor robot got tired of cleaning up after some lady’s hoard of incontinent dogs? So it squeezed out the dogs like toothpaste and then killed the lady as well? Sounds like a Richard Stanley film...
- chromanoid 6y agoThat implies that AIs will always use excessive amounts of human made training data ("implies" in context of this thread).
- sitkack 6y agoI am not sure that does. I have learned a great deal from folks that were very very different from myself. Not emacs vs vi, but why would I use a computer?
- superbcarrot 6y agoThe idea of an AI agent "wanting" something (especially something it wasn't programmed for) is still strictly science fiction. We don't know how to start building something like this and even if we could, it seems unnecessary.
- coldtea 6y agoWell, want can be seen as just a tendency. In that sense, even a ball on a slope wants something: to fall downwards following the slope. Same for e.g. a neural network with or or more attractors ("things it wants").
- Robotbeat 6y agoWhy? Goal-driven optimization is totally a thing.
- pedrosbmartins 6y agoYou have to be careful when anthropomorphizing AI models. Yes, goal-driven optimization is a thing, but in what sense does the model itself "want" to achieve its goal? Can it even understand its own goal, in any sense? Change it? Improve it? In linear programming, you wouldn't describe the model as "wanting" to optimize its objective function, for instance.
- refactor_master 6y agoWell, where do you set the hard limit for “wanting” something, and how many grains of sand makes a pile?
- Isinlor 6y agoCan you understand your own goal? I can't, I don't know what my goal is. I also can't change it or improve it. As far as I can see, I'm just a process that keeps on going because it was good on going before, and has no purpose whatsoever.
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