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Absolutely, it's materials science. Most electronics like this aren't meant to be run full-tilt 24/7, especially not under the conditions that crypto mining ty

by tw04 6y ago

Absolutely, it's materials science. Most electronics like this aren't meant to be run full-tilt 24/7, especially not under the conditions that crypto mining typically occurs. Subpar cooling, potentially dirty air - so lots of dust and particulate. Not to mention crypto miners will often have the GPUs overclocked on top of running full tilt to get every last hash out of it. It's about as brutal of a situation as you can get for a GPU.

gruez 6y ago
>Not to mention crypto miners will often have the GPUs overclocked on top of running full tilt to get every last hash out of it. It's about as brutal of a situation as you can get for a GPU. This is false because miners often undervolt to achieve better efficiency. The popular GPU mining algorithms are all memory-bound, so you can undervolt your core clocks quite a bit and still get >95% of the original performance.
- Retric 6y ago
  That depends on how valuable the last 5% of your hash rate is and local electricity prices. Running an OC especially for memory can objectively be the correct choice. For collage dorms for example rarely charge based on electricity use. Some apartment complexes also include electricity as part of the rent.
  - gruez 6y ago
    >For collage dorms for example rarely charge based on electricity use. Some apartment complexes also include electricity as part of the rent. Those situations are rare. A student in a college dorm isn't going to be able to afford multiple GPUs for a mining rig, and if he's mining with one GPU, he's likely going to keep it when the crash comes rather than trying to sell it into a flooded market. Apartment mining is more believable, but even then power consumption is going to be an issue for them because of noise. They're also going to be vastly outnumbered (in terms of GPUs operated) by professional miners because most people don't have a few thousand dollars to drop on generating highly speculative assets.
    - Fomite 6y ago
      "A student in a college dorm isn't going to be able to afford multiple GPUs for a mining rig" I have met several counter examples.
  - R0b0t1 6y ago
    Power cost is not typically something people consider when deciding to overvolt. Have you ever done any mining? Most people prioritize the longevity of the cards. Resale value is not negligible.
    - Retric 6y ago
      Yes though I stopped. At 22c/kWh it’s 2$/year per watt. Which makes a huge difference when optimizing your setup and cooling.
  - deepakhj 6y ago
    I’m running at 50% gpu which lowers my tdp to 165 watts and gpu temp of 70C.
CyberDildonics 6y ago
Everything you just said is total nonsense. This idea that you are going to "wear out" a GPU is something people started saying when they were obviously bitter about not being able to find GPUs and seeing them being resold later for more than retail after they had been used for mining. There is nothing to back this up unless something melts.
- f430 6y ago
  by wear out means losing power/heat efficiency you absolutely can wear out a GPU with excessive mining.
  - CyberDildonics 6y ago
    That's not how electronics work. Do you think the copper wiring in your house also wears out?

by tw04 6y ago

gruez 6y ago

>Not to mention crypto miners will often have the GPUs overclocked on top of running full tilt to get every last hash out of it. It's about as brutal of a situation as you can get for a GPU. This is false because miners often undervolt to achieve better efficiency. The popular GPU mining algorithms are all memory-bound, so you can undervolt your core clocks quite a bit and still get >95% of the original performance.

Retric 6y ago
That depends on how valuable the last 5% of your hash rate is and local electricity prices. Running an OC especially for memory can objectively be the correct choice. For collage dorms for example rarely charge based on electricity use. Some apartment complexes also include electricity as part of the rent.
- gruez 6y ago
  >For collage dorms for example rarely charge based on electricity use. Some apartment complexes also include electricity as part of the rent. Those situations are rare. A student in a college dorm isn't going to be able to afford multiple GPUs for a mining rig, and if he's mining with one GPU, he's likely going to keep it when the crash comes rather than trying to sell it into a flooded market. Apartment mining is more believable, but even then power consumption is going to be an issue for them because of noise. They're also going to be vastly outnumbered (in terms of GPUs operated) by professional miners because most people don't have a few thousand dollars to drop on generating highly speculative assets.
  - Fomite 6y ago
    "A student in a college dorm isn't going to be able to afford multiple GPUs for a mining rig" I have met several counter examples.
- R0b0t1 6y ago
  Power cost is not typically something people consider when deciding to overvolt. Have you ever done any mining? Most people prioritize the longevity of the cards. Resale value is not negligible.
  - Retric 6y ago
    Yes though I stopped. At 22c/kWh it’s 2$/year per watt. Which makes a huge difference when optimizing your setup and cooling.
- deepakhj 6y ago
  I’m running at 50% gpu which lowers my tdp to 165 watts and gpu temp of 70C.

CyberDildonics 6y ago

Everything you just said is total nonsense. This idea that you are going to "wear out" a GPU is something people started saying when they were obviously bitter about not being able to find GPUs and seeing them being resold later for more than retail after they had been used for mining. There is nothing to back this up unless something melts.

f430 6y ago
by wear out means losing power/heat efficiency you absolutely can wear out a GPU with excessive mining.
- CyberDildonics 6y ago
  That's not how electronics work. Do you think the copper wiring in your house also wears out?