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The comments quoted are harmless. Not a person alive hasn’t engaged in worse banter. And you’re lying to yourself if you claim otherwise.

cpncrunch 6y ago
It's a question of context. It's fine to say things like this to your spouse or your friend. But is it acceptable to do so in a professional setting like this? Some people are just like this...they will happily bitch and gossip during a meeting, and it creates a really toxic atmosphere. There are ways to discuss these things in a professional manner. Always assume that what you say in a meeting will make its way out of the meeting, because (surprise, surprise), most of the time it will.
- t-writescode 6y ago
  > It's a question of context. > It's fine to say things like this to your spouse or your friend The context was, in effect, an accidental hot mic situation where they thought they were alone with their friends.
  - CydeWeys 6y ago
    The context is it was an official School Board meeting.
    - t-writescode 6y ago
      The first comment is "are we alone?" to which someone says "yes". They thought they were alone and it was over / not started yet.
      - cpncrunch 6y ago
        In a meeting situation (assuming not just very close friends+family): even if you're alone, your comments aren't necessarily going to remain private. If you say something nasty/bitchy/unprofessional, it's going to get out.
        t-writescode 6y ago
        This is changing the meaning of what you stated at the beginning. You can't say "you can say this among friends" and then turn it around and say "well, you can't expect it to remain private" as an excuse for your repulsion of the statement. It was a bunch of school board members talking together amongst themselves at either the start or the end of the meeting. If this were in the physical world, it would have been to an empty chamber, or between meetings as they walked. It just so happens that someone else was in the meeting that they didn't notice; and that person decided to record what they were saying and share it with the internet.
Simulacra 6y ago
Are you a teacher?
- s1artibartfast 6y ago
  I have heard every teach I know say much worse. They know one of their primary functions is babysitting.
  - Simulacra 6y ago
    If we require children to be in school, that's essentially what they are doing is babysitting, but hopefully teaching. I think teachers like working from home and they don't want to go back to the classroom, it's that simple. The only people I hear complaining about returning to the classroom are, well, teachers. At some point they have to go back, whether they like it or not.
    - t-writescode 6y ago
      Do _you_ know any teachers? I've certainly not been hearing about how much they love working from home with the exception of one. The rest find it more difficult to teach, especially with complicated technology and decade old laptops.
      - s1artibartfast 6y ago
        Most that I know don't like working from home, but still would quit before going back without a vaccine.
        t-writescode 6y ago
        In fact, we were basically cheering them last year for doing the very same when they were being forced to work. We cheered and demanded the closing of schools when kids were taking videos of the unmasked masses walking the halls. Huge percentages of teachers _have_ quit for that very reason.
bassman9000 6y ago
Which makes the whole system even more despicable: they weren't fired because of the content. They were fired because they were caught.
rootusrootus 6y ago
The comments are laughably bland compared to what teachers hear every day from parents.

cpncrunch 6y ago

It's a question of context. It's fine to say things like this to your spouse or your friend. But is it acceptable to do so in a professional setting like this? Some people are just like this...they will happily bitch and gossip during a meeting, and it creates a really toxic atmosphere. There are ways to discuss these things in a professional manner. Always assume that what you say in a meeting will make its way out of the meeting, because (surprise, surprise), most of the time it will.

t-writescode 6y ago
> It's a question of context. > It's fine to say things like this to your spouse or your friend The context was, in effect, an accidental hot mic situation where they thought they were alone with their friends.
- CydeWeys 6y ago
  The context is it was an official School Board meeting.
  - t-writescode 6y ago
    The first comment is "are we alone?" to which someone says "yes". They thought they were alone and it was over / not started yet.
    - cpncrunch 6y ago
      In a meeting situation (assuming not just very close friends+family): even if you're alone, your comments aren't necessarily going to remain private. If you say something nasty/bitchy/unprofessional, it's going to get out.
      - t-writescode 6y ago
        This is changing the meaning of what you stated at the beginning. You can't say "you can say this among friends" and then turn it around and say "well, you can't expect it to remain private" as an excuse for your repulsion of the statement. It was a bunch of school board members talking together amongst themselves at either the start or the end of the meeting. If this were in the physical world, it would have been to an empty chamber, or between meetings as they walked. It just so happens that someone else was in the meeting that they didn't notice; and that person decided to record what they were saying and share it with the internet.

Simulacra 6y ago

Are you a teacher?

s1artibartfast 6y ago
I have heard every teach I know say much worse. They know one of their primary functions is babysitting.
- Simulacra 6y ago
  If we require children to be in school, that's essentially what they are doing is babysitting, but hopefully teaching. I think teachers like working from home and they don't want to go back to the classroom, it's that simple. The only people I hear complaining about returning to the classroom are, well, teachers. At some point they have to go back, whether they like it or not.
  - t-writescode 6y ago
    Do _you_ know any teachers? I've certainly not been hearing about how much they love working from home with the exception of one. The rest find it more difficult to teach, especially with complicated technology and decade old laptops.
    - s1artibartfast 6y ago
      Most that I know don't like working from home, but still would quit before going back without a vaccine.
      - t-writescode 6y ago
        In fact, we were basically cheering them last year for doing the very same when they were being forced to work. We cheered and demanded the closing of schools when kids were taking videos of the unmasked masses walking the halls. Huge percentages of teachers _have_ quit for that very reason.

bassman9000 6y ago

Which makes the whole system even more despicable: they weren't fired because of the content. They were fired because they were caught.

rootusrootus 6y ago

The comments are laughably bland compared to what teachers hear every day from parents.