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And you are... opposed to virtual people doinking?

bsenftner 6y ago
Not at all, but I am opposed to a generally available technology that enables ordinary people to create DeepFakes of pornography with photos of friends, family, co-workers, anyone they can acquire a photograph. I am opposed to such a system because I know how it will be abused and cause misery for hundreds of millions of unexpecting women.
- visarga 6y ago
  > hundreds of millions of unexpecting women Such empathy.. for half the population. They should ban research into female sexual avatars.
- klmadfejno 6y ago
  Sounds unlikely to me. We have artists, and yet there's not outpouring of hand drawn porn without consent featuring real people. I'm sure it will happen to some extent. But hundreds of millions of women? Doubtful.
  - bsenftner 6y ago
    I don't think you realize the impact of such a technology on society in general.
    - klmadfejno 6y ago
      And I don't think you realize the impact either. This feels like it falls squarely in the camp of worrying that people will trick self driving cars to murder people. Good news is most people aren't murderers. https://xkcd.com/1958/ https://xkcd.com/1958/ Most people aren't interested in sharing slanderous deep fake porn of others online either. There are social consequences to trying that and getting caught. And if they do, metahuman porn certainly is not going to be fooling many people.
      - bsenftner 6y ago
        I does not require many women or men to be affected for a mass negative reaction by the public. Just today a Hacker News post was about the author of Curl receiving threats. Would you like to be the guy that enables POS people to embed others into porn, for profit? That was what every pool of investors ultimately wanted to do.
        klmadfejno 6y ago
        I really don't care if someone creates a service to create a custom porn simulator. I don't think society would care either. People have been free to imagine others in sexual encounters since the dawn of time. The human experience won't radically be changed by rendering it on a screen. There's a possible risk in pretending these videos are real and trying to slut shame people, but I'd bet against those being common or successful.
        bsenftner 6y ago
        Ask 2-3 women you consider very beautiful what they'd think of such a service, and then what that'd think of the people who created it. Ask them if they've ever had a stalker - many beautiful women have, and many attractive men have too. The issues around unwanted sexual advances is far more prevalent and dangerous than you imagine. If you honestly look into this issue, you may learn something.
        klmadfejno 6y ago
        It's unfortunate that people have stalkers. I don't see metahumans as likely to exacerbate that problem.
- anotherman554 6y ago
  Is your technology particularly suited to deepfakes? Most graphic technology is just used to create fictional characters.
  - bsenftner 6y ago
    I wrote and acquired a global patent on a VFX process for mass production of short form video with select actors automatically replaced with anyone. I bit more involved than face replacements, it was a film VFX derived process. My intent was personalized advertising. A portion of the process is the creation of a digital double of a person given at little as one photo. I had the pipeline working and was seeking partnerships.
    - klmadfejno 6y ago
      I find your perspective really funny. Personalized advertising sounds MUCH WORSE than niche custom porn to me.
      - bsenftner 6y ago
        Personalized Advertising is seeing yourself driving the truck in the latest Tough Ford Truck ad. Personalized porn is every attractive person being afraid of being photographed because that enables creepers to create masturbation media depicting them. So what if the creation occurs in private, the videos will be shared among their social set.

Not at all, but I am opposed to a generally available technology that enables ordinary people to create DeepFakes of pornography with photos of friends, family, co-workers, anyone they can acquire a photograph. I am opposed to such a system because I know how it will be abused and cause misery for hundreds of millions of unexpecting women.

visarga 6y ago
> hundreds of millions of unexpecting women Such empathy.. for half the population. They should ban research into female sexual avatars.
klmadfejno 6y ago
Sounds unlikely to me. We have artists, and yet there's not outpouring of hand drawn porn without consent featuring real people. I'm sure it will happen to some extent. But hundreds of millions of women? Doubtful.
- bsenftner 6y ago
  I don't think you realize the impact of such a technology on society in general.
  - klmadfejno 6y ago
    And I don't think you realize the impact either. This feels like it falls squarely in the camp of worrying that people will trick self driving cars to murder people. Good news is most people aren't murderers. https://xkcd.com/1958/ https://xkcd.com/1958/ Most people aren't interested in sharing slanderous deep fake porn of others online either. There are social consequences to trying that and getting caught. And if they do, metahuman porn certainly is not going to be fooling many people.
    - bsenftner 6y ago
      I does not require many women or men to be affected for a mass negative reaction by the public. Just today a Hacker News post was about the author of Curl receiving threats. Would you like to be the guy that enables POS people to embed others into porn, for profit? That was what every pool of investors ultimately wanted to do.
      - klmadfejno 6y ago
        I really don't care if someone creates a service to create a custom porn simulator. I don't think society would care either. People have been free to imagine others in sexual encounters since the dawn of time. The human experience won't radically be changed by rendering it on a screen. There's a possible risk in pretending these videos are real and trying to slut shame people, but I'd bet against those being common or successful.
        bsenftner 6y ago
        Ask 2-3 women you consider very beautiful what they'd think of such a service, and then what that'd think of the people who created it. Ask them if they've ever had a stalker - many beautiful women have, and many attractive men have too. The issues around unwanted sexual advances is far more prevalent and dangerous than you imagine. If you honestly look into this issue, you may learn something.
        klmadfejno 6y ago
        It's unfortunate that people have stalkers. I don't see metahumans as likely to exacerbate that problem.
anotherman554 6y ago
Is your technology particularly suited to deepfakes? Most graphic technology is just used to create fictional characters.
- bsenftner 6y ago
  I wrote and acquired a global patent on a VFX process for mass production of short form video with select actors automatically replaced with anyone. I bit more involved than face replacements, it was a film VFX derived process. My intent was personalized advertising. A portion of the process is the creation of a digital double of a person given at little as one photo. I had the pipeline working and was seeking partnerships.
  - klmadfejno 6y ago
    I find your perspective really funny. Personalized advertising sounds MUCH WORSE than niche custom porn to me.
    - bsenftner 6y ago
      Personalized Advertising is seeing yourself driving the truck in the latest Tough Ford Truck ad. Personalized porn is every attractive person being afraid of being photographed because that enables creepers to create masturbation media depicting them. So what if the creation occurs in private, the videos will be shared among their social set.