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Right. I've yet to see any combination of easy/sane setup for jwt (beyond the fact that it's somewhat standard, although less standard than basic auth). You mi
by e12e 6y ago
Right. I've yet to see any combination of easy/sane setup for jwt (beyond the fact that it's somewhat standard, although less standard than basic auth).
You might set the jwt to expire in 15 minutes, for a 5-10 minute session allowing for clock drift - and just eschew the black list.
But now you need a longer lived "refresh token" and a service endpoint that handles that, along with a black list.
It is "simpler" in the sense that: your app have two separate auth/clients - one is very simple - gets a jwt token and renews every ten minutes - the rest of your app simply uses the jwt.
On your server side, you can have a dedicated/simple service that only renews jwts given a refresh token (checks refresh token blacklist) - and your other apps blindly trusts the jwt (checks signature and the short timestamp).
You've now reimplented half of kerberos - along with "pass the hash" - and at least you can reason about the trade-offs you've made...
- keybits 6y agohttps://developer.okta.com/blog/2017/08/17/why-jwts-suck-as-session-tokens https://developer.okta.com/blog/2017/08/17/why-jwts-suck-as-...
- domano 6y agoI agree with the points made, but want to make a case for JWTs for all service landscapes based on message queues, kafka or asynchronous communication. There the statelessness really shines.