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Rush Limbaugh has died

42 points by ecommerceguy 6y ago

gyc 6y ago
Well I guess to make this somewhat tech relevant he was a pretty big Apple and Mac fanboy despite not liking the company's politics.
solosoyokaze 6y ago
I think the only thing interesting about this is to reflect on the culture of the late 80s and early 90s. It seems to me that there was a transition from the litigious nature of the US to "political correctness" to the culture we have today that can be viewed as accountability or "cancel culture" depending on your point of view. Limbaugh played a big role in politicizing that process. He was probably also one of the main drivers of the populist right movement that ultimately turned into Trump. Disclosure: my politics don't match the mainstream and I'm not a liberal/democrat/republican/far-right, this is just my observation from someone who grew up in the 90s. EDIT: if you're down voting this I would love to know why. I'm not even sure if it's pro-Rush or anti-Rush people doing it as I thought my statement was pretty neutral.
- mateo411 6y ago
  I don't understand what you mean by transition from the litigious nature of US to "political correctness". I think the convention definition of litigious nature is to be "quick to litigate/sue people in court". I don't see what that has to do with political correctness. Political correctness was a term invented in the late 80s early 90s, but I think America was litigious before that and continues to be litigious today. And if you disagree with that, I'll see you in court.
  - solosoyokaze 6y ago
    I think political correctness was born of the litigious culture. There was a pivot in the 80s in the US from focusing on the individual to that of the systems the individual interacts with. The locus of control flipped and in my opinion this was due to culture, especially workplace culture, becoming more litigious. This manifested in increased awareness of discrimination and HR in general, which led directly to "political correctness". I personally agree that systems play a huge role in a person's life trajectory and that "rugged American exceptionalism" was always a myth unless you were white, but that's beyond the scope of my point here.
    - mateo411 6y ago
      That's an interesting point. I hadn't thought of that. Thanks for explaining that because it's not an obvious connection. You might be correct.
j_m_b 6y ago
Rush created a market for his product. He offered his show for free to AM stations in exchange for leaving open breaks for commercials aired by the program. This at a time when AM radio was dying due to it being supplanted by the superior fidelity of FM stations. The station owners were happy to fill up the time slot of 12-3PM EST when no one was listening. He was able to open a market and create opportunity where no one else saw it.
- 1996 6y ago
  Brilliant!
- yawnxyz 6y ago
  that guy was a true startup founder that created demand for his products and found the ultimate product market fit... /semi-serious sarcasm... his product was essentially populism as a service
  - ibejoeb 6y ago
    Rush sold material that populists wanted to consume, and now social media is selling the impression that certain material is popular.
- analog31 6y ago
  My office mate in grad school listened to it religiously. I still remember ads for Snapple and "Hooked On Phonics."
- benjohnson 6y ago
  Jumping back into abandoned media/technology can work out well because you have no competition - for our IT company we get a lot of value from our USPS letter advertising.
  - analog31 6y ago
    Another example is bands selling LP records at their shows. They're cheap to make and hard for people to copy.
joshz404 6y ago
The man sowed hate. That's his "legacy". Here's to a collective forgetting.
- tuckerpo 6y ago
  and then everybody clapped
- bobcallme 6y ago
  While he had some controversial views and opinions, that's quite a blanketed statement. Painting everyone you don't like with arbitrary claims is not how you deal with polarizing individuals. I did not agree with him on ~70% of what he had to say but will defend the fact that a lot of things he said were taken out of context.
  - tw04 6y ago
    Such as? Every time I heard a Limbaugh quote that sounded absolutely outrageous, then listened to the audio in context, it was as bad if not worse than the summary.
    - deleted 6y ago
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  - belltaco 6y ago
    Was broadcasting this to an audience of mostly old impressionable people who looked up to him 'taken out of context' as well? Do you really think saying the below did not result in greater illness and/or death of at least some people and greater spread? >RUSH: Folks, this coronavirus thing, I want to try to put this in perspective for you. It looks like the coronavirus is being weaponized as yet another element to bring down Donald Trump. Now, I want to tell you the truth about the coronavirus. (interruption) You think I’m wrong about this? You think I’m missing it by saying that’s… (interruption) Yeah, I’m dead right on this. The coronavirus is the common cold, folks.
    - 6y ago
mg5150 6y ago
One right-wing demagogue down, entirely too many to go.
internetslave 6y ago
Life is short, political leanings aside, Rest In Peace rush
s17n 6y ago
"Just another dead doper. And a dirt bag."
- Joeboy 6y ago
  Linbaugh's comment on Jerry Garcia's death, for anybody wondering.
freedomben 6y ago
I grew up listening to Rush Limbaugh in the 90s as my dad had it on. My dad traveled 100% of the time and it was awesome as a kid to go with him, even though I had to listen to boring talk radio for 3 hours ;-) I have quite a few political differences with Rush (especially on social issues), but although I disagree with him on a lot and haven't listened to his show in probably 25 years (other than a few radio surfing moments during the day here and there), the man made a huge impact on history and the culture. From a hacker perspective he's fascinating because he was a captivating radio presence. Even when I found myself disagreeing with him, there's something about his voice and projection that makes you want to listen, and makes you feel like if you change the channel you'll be missing out. It would be fascinating to study how he was able to do that, to the extent that "art" can be studied of course.
whitehouse3 6y ago
May he rest as peacefully as he lived.
freedomben 6y ago
When I saw [flagged] I thought, "come on, this community can surely discuss somebody like Rush Limbaugh without it turning into a partisan flamewar." Then I read many of the comments and realized I was wrong. We can do so much better than this.
- polka_haunts_us 6y ago
  I flagged it because honestly I think it's off-topic for the site. I realize that HN isn't great about that in general but I really struggle to think of anything less geared towards intellectual curiosity (what this site is hypothetically about) than "Polarizing figure dies expectedly".
SN76477 6y ago
I remember I was maybe 13 or 14. I had my first bass guitar, and I was a huge Rush (the band) fan. I somehow came across these "Rush Is Right" bumper stickers and put it on the instrument case. I was too young to know about the man. While I have no respect for his words, or his work, I respect him as a human. RIP
ykevinator 6y ago
Glad he's dead, he was a mean dick
gremlinsinc 6y ago
What a wonderful man...remember that time he made fun of Michael J. Fox's Parkinson? Good times... Many laughs... "This is really shameless folks"... the perfect phrase to sum up his life. "Shameless." https://twitter.com/SageRosenfels18/status/1224902092457943041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1224902092457943041%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thedailybeast.com%2Fill-never-forget-rush-limbaugh-mocking-michael-j-foxs-parkinsons https://twitter.com/SageRosenfels18/status/12249020924579430... “In this commercial, he is exaggerating the effects of the disease,” Rush said in the 2006 broadcast, while mocking Michael’s tremors. “He is moving all around and shaking and this is purely an act. I have never seen Michael J. Fox display any of these symptoms of the disease. He can control himself enough to stay in the frame of the picture and he can control himself enough to keep his eyes on the lens, the teleprompter. But his head and shoulders are moving all over the place. This is really shameless, folks. Either he didn’t take his medication or he’s acting.”

42 points by ecommerceguy 6y ago

gyc 6y ago

Well I guess to make this somewhat tech relevant he was a pretty big Apple and Mac fanboy despite not liking the company's politics.

solosoyokaze 6y ago

I think the only thing interesting about this is to reflect on the culture of the late 80s and early 90s. It seems to me that there was a transition from the litigious nature of the US to "political correctness" to the culture we have today that can be viewed as accountability or "cancel culture" depending on your point of view. Limbaugh played a big role in politicizing that process. He was probably also one of the main drivers of the populist right movement that ultimately turned into Trump. Disclosure: my politics don't match the mainstream and I'm not a liberal/democrat/republican/far-right, this is just my observation from someone who grew up in the 90s. EDIT: if you're down voting this I would love to know why. I'm not even sure if it's pro-Rush or anti-Rush people doing it as I thought my statement was pretty neutral.

mateo411 6y ago
I don't understand what you mean by transition from the litigious nature of US to "political correctness". I think the convention definition of litigious nature is to be "quick to litigate/sue people in court". I don't see what that has to do with political correctness. Political correctness was a term invented in the late 80s early 90s, but I think America was litigious before that and continues to be litigious today. And if you disagree with that, I'll see you in court.
- solosoyokaze 6y ago
  I think political correctness was born of the litigious culture. There was a pivot in the 80s in the US from focusing on the individual to that of the systems the individual interacts with. The locus of control flipped and in my opinion this was due to culture, especially workplace culture, becoming more litigious. This manifested in increased awareness of discrimination and HR in general, which led directly to "political correctness". I personally agree that systems play a huge role in a person's life trajectory and that "rugged American exceptionalism" was always a myth unless you were white, but that's beyond the scope of my point here.
  - mateo411 6y ago
    That's an interesting point. I hadn't thought of that. Thanks for explaining that because it's not an obvious connection. You might be correct.

j_m_b 6y ago

Rush created a market for his product. He offered his show for free to AM stations in exchange for leaving open breaks for commercials aired by the program. This at a time when AM radio was dying due to it being supplanted by the superior fidelity of FM stations. The station owners were happy to fill up the time slot of 12-3PM EST when no one was listening. He was able to open a market and create opportunity where no one else saw it.

1996 6y ago
Brilliant!
yawnxyz 6y ago
that guy was a true startup founder that created demand for his products and found the ultimate product market fit... /semi-serious sarcasm... his product was essentially populism as a service
- ibejoeb 6y ago
  Rush sold material that populists wanted to consume, and now social media is selling the impression that certain material is popular.
analog31 6y ago
My office mate in grad school listened to it religiously. I still remember ads for Snapple and "Hooked On Phonics."
benjohnson 6y ago
Jumping back into abandoned media/technology can work out well because you have no competition - for our IT company we get a lot of value from our USPS letter advertising.
- analog31 6y ago
  Another example is bands selling LP records at their shows. They're cheap to make and hard for people to copy.

joshz404 6y ago

The man sowed hate. That's his "legacy". Here's to a collective forgetting.

tuckerpo 6y ago
and then everybody clapped
bobcallme 6y ago
While he had some controversial views and opinions, that's quite a blanketed statement. Painting everyone you don't like with arbitrary claims is not how you deal with polarizing individuals. I did not agree with him on ~70% of what he had to say but will defend the fact that a lot of things he said were taken out of context.
- tw04 6y ago
  Such as? Every time I heard a Limbaugh quote that sounded absolutely outrageous, then listened to the audio in context, it was as bad if not worse than the summary.
  - deleted 6y ago
    [deleted]
- belltaco 6y ago
  Was broadcasting this to an audience of mostly old impressionable people who looked up to him 'taken out of context' as well? Do you really think saying the below did not result in greater illness and/or death of at least some people and greater spread? >RUSH: Folks, this coronavirus thing, I want to try to put this in perspective for you. It looks like the coronavirus is being weaponized as yet another element to bring down Donald Trump. Now, I want to tell you the truth about the coronavirus. (interruption) You think I’m wrong about this? You think I’m missing it by saying that’s… (interruption) Yeah, I’m dead right on this. The coronavirus is the common cold, folks.
  - 6y ago

mg5150 6y ago

One right-wing demagogue down, entirely too many to go.

internetslave 6y ago

Life is short, political leanings aside, Rest In Peace rush

s17n 6y ago

"Just another dead doper. And a dirt bag."

Joeboy 6y ago
Linbaugh's comment on Jerry Garcia's death, for anybody wondering.

freedomben 6y ago

I grew up listening to Rush Limbaugh in the 90s as my dad had it on. My dad traveled 100% of the time and it was awesome as a kid to go with him, even though I had to listen to boring talk radio for 3 hours ;-) I have quite a few political differences with Rush (especially on social issues), but although I disagree with him on a lot and haven't listened to his show in probably 25 years (other than a few radio surfing moments during the day here and there), the man made a huge impact on history and the culture. From a hacker perspective he's fascinating because he was a captivating radio presence. Even when I found myself disagreeing with him, there's something about his voice and projection that makes you want to listen, and makes you feel like if you change the channel you'll be missing out. It would be fascinating to study how he was able to do that, to the extent that "art" can be studied of course.

whitehouse3 6y ago

May he rest as peacefully as he lived.

freedomben 6y ago

When I saw [flagged] I thought, "come on, this community can surely discuss somebody like Rush Limbaugh without it turning into a partisan flamewar." Then I read many of the comments and realized I was wrong. We can do so much better than this.

polka_haunts_us 6y ago
I flagged it because honestly I think it's off-topic for the site. I realize that HN isn't great about that in general but I really struggle to think of anything less geared towards intellectual curiosity (what this site is hypothetically about) than "Polarizing figure dies expectedly".

SN76477 6y ago

I remember I was maybe 13 or 14. I had my first bass guitar, and I was a huge Rush (the band) fan. I somehow came across these "Rush Is Right" bumper stickers and put it on the instrument case. I was too young to know about the man. While I have no respect for his words, or his work, I respect him as a human. RIP

ykevinator 6y ago

Glad he's dead, he was a mean dick

gremlinsinc 6y ago

What a wonderful man...remember that time he made fun of Michael J. Fox's Parkinson? Good times... Many laughs... "This is really shameless folks"... the perfect phrase to sum up his life. "Shameless." https://twitter.com/SageRosenfels18/status/1224902092457943041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1224902092457943041%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thedailybeast.com%2Fill-never-forget-rush-limbaugh-mocking-michael-j-foxs-parkinsons https://twitter.com/SageRosenfels18/status/12249020924579430... “In this commercial, he is exaggerating the effects of the disease,” Rush said in the 2006 broadcast, while mocking Michael’s tremors. “He is moving all around and shaking and this is purely an act. I have never seen Michael J. Fox display any of these symptoms of the disease. He can control himself enough to stay in the frame of the picture and he can control himself enough to keep his eyes on the lens, the teleprompter. But his head and shoulders are moving all over the place. This is really shameless, folks. Either he didn’t take his medication or he’s acting.”