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Please show me the meeting notes where vDL was decided to be the new Commission head. As far as I'm aware they aren't public, but I'd be very interested to read

Please show me the meeting notes where vDL was decided to be the new Commission head. As far as I'm aware they aren't public, but I'd be very interested to read them as would many other people. The Commission has the exclusive power to propose changes to the law. That makes the non-Parliament worthless. There is no point in the so-called parties that populate this so-called Parliament having any policies because they can't do anything. In turn that makes so-called political campaigning also useless because there's nothing to campaign about. They can only rubber stamp the Commission's prior decisions. It's a fake Parliament which is why such a ridiculous proportion of MEPs are actually against the EU as an institution, something you don't find anywhere else. Literally all of the consequential decisions made by the EU have been decided by the Council of Ministers Where were they on vaccines then? The Council "decided" to give all the responsibility for that to the Commission. That's the general flavour of their decisions: give the Commission more power.

disgruntledphd2 6y ago
> Please show me the meeting notes where vDL was decided to be the new Commission head. As far as I'm aware they aren't public, but I'd be very interested to read them as would many other people. You are incorrect, Council minutes have been public since Lisbon (so for a decade now). https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/documents-publications/public-register/council-minutes/ https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/documents-publications/pu... > The Commission has the exclusive power to propose changes to the law. Yes, but those laws have no effect until both the Council and the Parliament accept them. In many ways, it's similar to the fact that most governments (i.e. the executive) have practically exclusive powers to propose laws (as they'll have a majority by definition). I agree that it's not ideal, but things are trending in the right direction. > That makes the non-Parliament worthless. There is no point in the so-called parties that populate this so-called Parliament having any policies because they can't do anything. In turn that makes so-called political campaigning also useless because there's nothing to campaign about. They can only rubber stamp the Commission's prior decisions. It's a fake Parliament which is why such a ridiculous proportion of MEPs are actually against the EU as an institution, something you don't find anywhere else. So, from Wikipedia, it appears that approximately 130 of the 700 representatives are considered to be Eurosceptic. So that's about 18%. I think that's a fair reflection of the level of EU-scepticism across the continent. > which is why such a ridiculous proportion of MEPs are actually against the EU as an institution, something you don't find anywhere else. I'm going to make the assumption that you are British (apologies if this is not true). In the current UK parliament you have 47 SNP MP's, and 6 SF MP's. Neither of these accept the validity of the UK parliament, making that approximately 8% relative to the EP. This is lower, but definitely it's possible to have people like that (another good example would be the pro-separist parties in Catalonia). > Where were they on vaccines then? The Council "decided" to give all the responsibility for that to the Commission. That's the general flavour of their decisions: give the Commission more power. Speaking as a member of a small EU state, I'm glad the EU took on procurement as we would be in a much worse state otherwise. That being said, the Commission fucked up here, I don't think anyone denies it, but hopefully they will learn from this mistake.

disgruntledphd2 6y ago

> Please show me the meeting notes where vDL was decided to be the new Commission head. As far as I'm aware they aren't public, but I'd be very interested to read them as would many other people. You are incorrect, Council minutes have been public since Lisbon (so for a decade now). https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/documents-publications/public-register/council-minutes/ https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/documents-publications/pu... > The Commission has the exclusive power to propose changes to the law. Yes, but those laws have no effect until both the Council and the Parliament accept them. In many ways, it's similar to the fact that most governments (i.e. the executive) have practically exclusive powers to propose laws (as they'll have a majority by definition). I agree that it's not ideal, but things are trending in the right direction. > That makes the non-Parliament worthless. There is no point in the so-called parties that populate this so-called Parliament having any policies because they can't do anything. In turn that makes so-called political campaigning also useless because there's nothing to campaign about. They can only rubber stamp the Commission's prior decisions. It's a fake Parliament which is why such a ridiculous proportion of MEPs are actually against the EU as an institution, something you don't find anywhere else. So, from Wikipedia, it appears that approximately 130 of the 700 representatives are considered to be Eurosceptic. So that's about 18%. I think that's a fair reflection of the level of EU-scepticism across the continent. > which is why such a ridiculous proportion of MEPs are actually against the EU as an institution, something you don't find anywhere else. I'm going to make the assumption that you are British (apologies if this is not true). In the current UK parliament you have 47 SNP MP's, and 6 SF MP's. Neither of these accept the validity of the UK parliament, making that approximately 8% relative to the EP. This is lower, but definitely it's possible to have people like that (another good example would be the pro-separist parties in Catalonia). > Where were they on vaccines then? The Council "decided" to give all the responsibility for that to the Commission. That's the general flavour of their decisions: give the Commission more power. Speaking as a member of a small EU state, I'm glad the EU took on procurement as we would be in a much worse state otherwise. That being said, the Commission fucked up here, I don't think anyone denies it, but hopefully they will learn from this mistake.