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Actually it makes a lot of sense. There are a lot things I don’t want to be associated with. I’m also left of center and I’m not actually worried about having

Actually it makes a lot of sense. There are a lot things I don’t want to be associated with. I’m also left of center and I’m not actually worried about having a Parler account, but there are a ton of websites that scare me way more.

fao_ 6y ago
I signed up for a Gab account purely out of curiosity. There was literally nothing but misogynistic, homophobic, racist, antisemitic trash content on the entire timeline. I'm honestly not sure what I expected to be honest. I signed in once, scrolled a bit, recoiled in disgust and haven't been back.
- throw0101a 6y ago
  An observation that someone on HN pointed to when the Parler take-down originally occurred: > The moral of the story is: if you’re against witch-hunts, and you promise to found your own little utopian community where witch-hunts will never happen, your new society will end up consisting of approximately three principled civil libertarians and seven zillion witches. It will be a terrible place to live even if witch-hunts are genuinely wrong. * https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/05/01/neutral-vs-conservative-the-eternal-struggle/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/05/01/neutral-vs-conservativ...
- cobraetor 6y ago
  > I signed up for a Gab account purely out of curiosity. There was literally nothing but misogynistic, homophobic, racist, antisemitic trash content on the entire timeline. That's interesting. The public timeline on Gab is visible to everyone (there is no need to sign in). I just took a peek at it right now and I don't see anything misogynistic, etc. Would you mind sharing some of its specific timeline content that made you think that?
  - crocodiletears 6y ago
    I joined Gab very early on in its development, when the devs were still running it as a reskinned WordPress site. It very much was exactly as the gp describes, though I've been told that the platform has become more tolerable as its community has expanded. I haven't check back however. Gab's public feed shows a subset of the top and hot posts, most of them look pretty tame.
meibo 6y ago
Like having a Facebook account?
14 6y ago
This comment actually shows why surveillance in a society is bad. You are altering you behaviours simply because of worry you may be judged and not for doing anything wrong but just for looking.
- x86_64Ubuntu 6y ago
  The jump to surveillance in society is quite a leap from the comment.
  - mattnewton 6y ago
    Not the original poster but, it seems pretty direct to me: everything we do online is logged somewhere online, for most practical purposes forever, and that’s the surveillance they are worried about.
    - BuyMyBitcoins 6y ago
      I’m really worried about this and I think it’s going to be a massive problem in the next few decades if trends continue. Especially because society’s views on what is acceptable changes with each generation. What we say today may be perfectly acceptable now, but can be considered hateful or [xyz]-phobic in the future. I try to tread carefully but even still, everything I have ever posted can be taken wildly out of context and used against me by some activist in the future.
      - inglor_cz 6y ago
        This. People seem to forget how much has the Overton Window shifted over last 4 years, or 10. In a 2008 interview, Obama said he wasn't in favor of gay marriage. Today, that would be cancelable offense for a random liberal person, and retroactivity is a thing in that culture. Brendan Eich was forced to resign in 2014 over an anti-gay-marriage donation from the same year of 2008.
        joshstrange 6y ago

fao_ 6y ago

I signed up for a Gab account purely out of curiosity. There was literally nothing but misogynistic, homophobic, racist, antisemitic trash content on the entire timeline. I'm honestly not sure what I expected to be honest. I signed in once, scrolled a bit, recoiled in disgust and haven't been back.

throw0101a 6y ago
An observation that someone on HN pointed to when the Parler take-down originally occurred: > The moral of the story is: if you’re against witch-hunts, and you promise to found your own little utopian community where witch-hunts will never happen, your new society will end up consisting of approximately three principled civil libertarians and seven zillion witches. It will be a terrible place to live even if witch-hunts are genuinely wrong. * https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/05/01/neutral-vs-conservative-the-eternal-struggle/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/05/01/neutral-vs-conservativ...
cobraetor 6y ago
> I signed up for a Gab account purely out of curiosity. There was literally nothing but misogynistic, homophobic, racist, antisemitic trash content on the entire timeline. That's interesting. The public timeline on Gab is visible to everyone (there is no need to sign in). I just took a peek at it right now and I don't see anything misogynistic, etc. Would you mind sharing some of its specific timeline content that made you think that?
- crocodiletears 6y ago
  I joined Gab very early on in its development, when the devs were still running it as a reskinned WordPress site. It very much was exactly as the gp describes, though I've been told that the platform has become more tolerable as its community has expanded. I haven't check back however. Gab's public feed shows a subset of the top and hot posts, most of them look pretty tame.

meibo 6y ago

Like having a Facebook account?

14 6y ago

This comment actually shows why surveillance in a society is bad. You are altering you behaviours simply because of worry you may be judged and not for doing anything wrong but just for looking.

x86_64Ubuntu 6y ago
The jump to surveillance in society is quite a leap from the comment.
- mattnewton 6y ago
  Not the original poster but, it seems pretty direct to me: everything we do online is logged somewhere online, for most practical purposes forever, and that’s the surveillance they are worried about.
  - BuyMyBitcoins 6y ago
    I’m really worried about this and I think it’s going to be a massive problem in the next few decades if trends continue. Especially because society’s views on what is acceptable changes with each generation. What we say today may be perfectly acceptable now, but can be considered hateful or [xyz]-phobic in the future. I try to tread carefully but even still, everything I have ever posted can be taken wildly out of context and used against me by some activist in the future.
    - inglor_cz 6y ago
      This. People seem to forget how much has the Overton Window shifted over last 4 years, or 10. In a 2008 interview, Obama said he wasn't in favor of gay marriage. Today, that would be cancelable offense for a random liberal person, and retroactivity is a thing in that culture. Brendan Eich was forced to resign in 2014 over an anti-gay-marriage donation from the same year of 2008.
      - joshstrange 6y ago