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>Robert Shiller – who correctly and bravely called the 2000 and 2007 bubbles and who is one of the very few economists I respect – is hedging his bets this time
by nabla9 6y ago
>Robert Shiller – who correctly and bravely called the 2000 and 2007 bubbles and who is one of the very few economists I respect – is hedging his bets this time, recently making the point that his legendary CAPE asset-pricing indicator (which suggests stocks are nearly as overpriced as at the 2000 bubble peak) shows less impressive overvaluation when compared to bonds. Bonds, however, are even more spectacularly expensive by historical comparison than stocks. Oh my!
Banks are OK, household debt levels are OK. Corporate bonds are the issue in the current economy. Nonfinancial corporate debt to GDP ratio: hhttps://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=B5NG https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=B5NG
* There are too many zombie companies walking around (indebted company that is able to repay the interest on its debts but not repay the principal)
* Institutional bond investors have chased profits to the lowest possible bond rating they are allowed to invest.
When something changes and ratings are downgraded, institutional investors are forced to sell these companies at the same time. Corporate bond market liquidity freezes overnight. Berkshire Hathaway will by bonds for cents per dollar...
- lumost 6y agoWouldn't this force the fed to become the lender to these zombie firms or let the institutions take a bath? I can't imagine corporate bankruptcies resulting in corrective change if the fed is the principal lender.
- nabla9 6y agoFed already opened corporate bond-buying program and used it. It's called Secondary Market Corporate Credit Facility (SMCCF). It only applies to investment-grade debt. Going below that and buying junk would be a big step.
- icelancer 6y agoYeah, this has been my impression for quite some time now. Future projection for company equity seems fine enough, though quite obviously overvalued (but good luck betting against uncapped QE). Corporate debt on the other hand has been scary for a few years and is getting ridiculous. Your point lowest possible bond ratings is a solid one, I think, and one I hadn't considered. The chaining effect of some failures will be significant given how much leverage is inherent in the system. I think bond market spreads will become quite large as liquidity dries up.