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> proposed drinking bleach speaking of trust. here's a PSA for those, who like myself, had trusted the media and thought that happened: https://www.politifact

> proposed drinking bleach speaking of trust. here's a PSA for those, who like myself, had trusted the media and thought that happened: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jul/11/joe-biden/no-trump-didnt-tell-americans-infected-coronavirus/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jul/11/joe-biden/...

jonas21 6y ago
Sure, it's not quite correct -- what he actually proposed was injecting bleach, which is even worse. You can watch the entire press conference here [1]. The relevant portion, starting at 27:04, is: ----- Bill Bryan: We’re also testing disinfectants readily available. We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids and I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes. Isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds and that’s with no manipulation, no rubbing. Just spraying it on and leaving it go. You rub it and it goes away even faster ... Donald Trump: A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting, right? And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. ----- This matches my recollection of what was being reported at the time. The fact check you linked to is about a claim by Joe Biden, not a media report. [1] https://youtu.be/YqsGjWNXB2M https://youtu.be/YqsGjWNXB2M
- kbelder 6y ago
  I wonder why you posted that, since it shows him clearly not proposing injecting bleach. That quote shows him wondering if there is some way some disinfectant can be injected into the bloodstream to destroy the virus, and that it would be interesting for doctors to look into that. He was obviously told that UV light is a disinfectant that has been used to directly treat blood (which is true). I really dislike Trump, but I feel like I end up defending him quite often against people who are just completely uncharitable in their interpretations of everything he's ever said or done.
  - deadcat 6y ago
    Really? you really want to argue that Trump wondering if disinfectant can be injected to destroy the virus is anything other than dangerously ignorant? We have things that can be injected to destroy the virus. They are called "vaccines". Trumps dumb suggestion is like watching someone use a weed whacker in their yard, then asking if microscopic weed whackers can be injected to fight the virus. I expect it off a young child, not a President.
    - Vecr 6y ago
      You mean monoclonal antibodies[0]? Vaccines are far too slow for a fast-moving virus like this if you are already exposed. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoclonal_antibody https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoclonal_antibody
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- nradov 6y ago
  "A Cedars-Sinai research team is in the pre-clinical stages of developing a technology that harnesses intermittent ultraviolet (UV) A light for treating viruses and bacteria." https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/cedars-sinai-statement-on-uv-a--technology/ https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/cedars-sinai-statement...
8note 6y ago
The news generally played his exact statement with him saying it. If you believe that he's telling you to drink bleach is up to you, but some people certainly did, and tried it.

jonas21 6y ago

Sure, it's not quite correct -- what he actually proposed was injecting bleach, which is even worse. You can watch the entire press conference here [1]. The relevant portion, starting at 27:04, is: ----- Bill Bryan: We’re also testing disinfectants readily available. We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids and I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes. Isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds and that’s with no manipulation, no rubbing. Just spraying it on and leaving it go. You rub it and it goes away even faster ... Donald Trump: A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting, right? And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. ----- This matches my recollection of what was being reported at the time. The fact check you linked to is about a claim by Joe Biden, not a media report. [1] https://youtu.be/YqsGjWNXB2M https://youtu.be/YqsGjWNXB2M

kbelder 6y ago
I wonder why you posted that, since it shows him clearly not proposing injecting bleach. That quote shows him wondering if there is some way some disinfectant can be injected into the bloodstream to destroy the virus, and that it would be interesting for doctors to look into that. He was obviously told that UV light is a disinfectant that has been used to directly treat blood (which is true). I really dislike Trump, but I feel like I end up defending him quite often against people who are just completely uncharitable in their interpretations of everything he's ever said or done.
- deadcat 6y ago
  Really? you really want to argue that Trump wondering if disinfectant can be injected to destroy the virus is anything other than dangerously ignorant? We have things that can be injected to destroy the virus. They are called "vaccines". Trumps dumb suggestion is like watching someone use a weed whacker in their yard, then asking if microscopic weed whackers can be injected to fight the virus. I expect it off a young child, not a President.
  - Vecr 6y ago
    You mean monoclonal antibodies[0]? Vaccines are far too slow for a fast-moving virus like this if you are already exposed. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoclonal_antibody https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoclonal_antibody
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nradov 6y ago
"A Cedars-Sinai research team is in the pre-clinical stages of developing a technology that harnesses intermittent ultraviolet (UV) A light for treating viruses and bacteria." https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/cedars-sinai-statement-on-uv-a--technology/ https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/cedars-sinai-statement...

8note 6y ago

The news generally played his exact statement with him saying it. If you believe that he's telling you to drink bleach is up to you, but some people certainly did, and tried it.