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This whole thread is side-stepping the point of the original article. As I understand it, the point is this: if we're going to get on a moral high horse about e
by mwcampbell 6y ago
This whole thread is side-stepping the point of the original article. As I understand it, the point is this: if we're going to get on a moral high horse about equal pay, then we should also apply that standard to the things we consume. So I'd think that links to ethical consumption guides would be more on point for this thread than further discussion of what _we_ are paid.
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- geoduck14 6y agoOh, by the way, Starbucks has "fair-trade" coffee, which costs more because the farmers get a decent wage. And the produce I buy at the grocery store comes from Florida, Texas, and California that hire legal immigrants with an American minimum wage.
- ironmagma 6y agoNot even. https://fairworldproject.org/starbucks-has-a-slave-labor-problem/ https://fairworldproject.org/starbucks-has-a-slave-labor-pro...
- jackcosgrove 6y agoI doubt the employer is considering what is moral when they cut your pay. It's all just rhetoric to them.
- mwcampbell 6y agoSure. And my point is that we who are relatively fortunate should focus on what we're indirectly doing to people less fortunate than us, and what we can do instead. In other words, we shouldn't keep seeing ourselves as victims.
- contravariant 6y agoThat would be a good point, unfortunately the article misses it entirely by advocating people don't have to 'right' to demand equal pay because they're guilty of the same thing (by association). It's the kind of tit-for-tat moral whataboutism that really doesn't do much to solve either problem.
- mwcampbell 6y agoTrue, the author backed away from the uncomfortable point when they wrote: > I don’t have a good answer to this, but I buy Chinese- and Bangladeshi-manufactured clothes anyway. But that doesn't mean we should avoid the more difficult discussion. I know that I'm privileged, and I figure I should focus on what I do, not what's done to me. I expected more commenters on this thread to take that position. As it is, the insistence on discussing what we are paid just makes us look like prima donnas.
- Aeolun 6y agoI’m all for clothes that I want being manufactured for a fair price (e.g. not next best to slave labour) But it should be just as easy to buy those as others. Right now everything is made China. It’s super hard to find made in [home country] stuff