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Which is unwelcome because Raspberry Pi included a repo for a Microsoft product without informing users prior. It pings MS every time an update occurs. It's one

Which is unwelcome because Raspberry Pi included a repo for a Microsoft product without informing users prior. It pings MS every time an update occurs. It's one thing for it to be available, but another entirely for RPi to assume users want anything to do with MS. If I wanted to program using VSC, I would download it based on my need for it. I have no need for it since I don't live in a MS world. https://www.pcmag.com/news/users-upset-as-raspberry-pi-os-now-pings-a-microsoft-server-during-updates https://www.pcmag.com/news/users-upset-as-raspberry-pi-os-no... https://betanews.com/2021/02/08/linux-based-raspberry-pi-os-secret-microsoft-repo/ https://betanews.com/2021/02/08/linux-based-raspberry-pi-os-... To disable it using the terminal: cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d ls to look for "vscode.list" Enter sudo nano vscode.list Comment out last line with the MS URL I don't want to disable it, I want it to go away and never return, but sadly, RPi think they know better than their users and it will show up again if deleted. I may look for another Pi distro because this is beyond the pale. Addind repos is a personal thing beyond the basic repos needed to run to OS and default software/updates. I'm also not a fan of MS owning GitHub.

aeastw 6y ago
I really don't understand how this is an issue. The raspbian distro is designed and fundamentally revolves around being a learning environment with as little friction/barrier to entry as possible. So having the repo available makes sense. If there is a need to be in complete control of every aspect of what is installed in the distro then there is always the option of creating your own distro that is completely controlled using something like the Yocto Project.
- greyandgreen 6y ago
  I use the software I do for many reasons. One of these reasons is that I dislike Microsoft and their business practices. I don't want to deal with them on any level, and for RPi to assume this low barrier to entry is welcome assumes many things they shouldn't assume. MS bought GitHub, which is bad enough. Their telemetry is reason enough to avoid them. America needs a version of the GDPR stat.
  - nso 6y ago
    I fricken love Microsoft and their products that have pushed the whole business of computing to an unpresedented level. And with their recent (as in the last years) focus on contributing, valuing, and pushing open source they have my full respect for being able to see that this is the way of the future. Perspectives, I guess.
    - xyproto 6y ago
      They would also have pushed vendor lock-in to an unprecedented level, if they were allowed to.
    - fartcannon 6y ago
      Microsoft are leeches. They're currently in the extending phase of their EEE open source run. If they succeed, they'll once again lock everything down and thus hold everyone back.
jonp888 6y ago
The Rpi Foundation already worked together with Microsoft on Windows IoT Core, and Tte Raspbian distribution includes many different packages from many different authors, some commercial, even though some of them may not be used by everyone. So I think it's fairly clear they do not share your extreme views on Microsoft, and on not installing any software that is not needed by every user. You picked the wrong distro.
mijndert 6y ago
You're mad because your Raspberry Pi offers you the possibility to install a piece of software you have no interest in? Microsoft can't track you if you just simply... don't install vscode. It's that simple.
- m4r35n357 6y ago
  Rubbish, the repo is accesssed on "apt update"
- vetinari 6y ago
  > Microsoft can't track you if you just simply... don't install vscode. Not really true. As the GP wrote: > It pings MS every time an update occurs is exactly true. You will ping Microsoft every single time you run 'apt update', even if you have nothing installed from this repo. Ideally, the repo should be disabled by default.
  - viro 6y ago
    ah yes every repo is tracking you. -_-
    - vetinari 6y ago
      well, because enabling a repo only when you need it is sooo difficult -_-
      - viro 6y ago
        I have been using linux(slackware) since the late 90's. You are the first person I have ever seen even suggest that as an idea.
        vetinari 6y ago
        Really? Slackware came with proprietary repos enabled by default? (I don't remember; I had slackware on floppies). Even Ubuntu didn't do that; their partners repo is off by default, if you want it, you can enable it. Fedora has similar mechanism, where it asks you when you first time run the Gnome Software.

aeastw 6y ago

I really don't understand how this is an issue. The raspbian distro is designed and fundamentally revolves around being a learning environment with as little friction/barrier to entry as possible. So having the repo available makes sense. If there is a need to be in complete control of every aspect of what is installed in the distro then there is always the option of creating your own distro that is completely controlled using something like the Yocto Project.

greyandgreen 6y ago
I use the software I do for many reasons. One of these reasons is that I dislike Microsoft and their business practices. I don't want to deal with them on any level, and for RPi to assume this low barrier to entry is welcome assumes many things they shouldn't assume. MS bought GitHub, which is bad enough. Their telemetry is reason enough to avoid them. America needs a version of the GDPR stat.
- nso 6y ago
  I fricken love Microsoft and their products that have pushed the whole business of computing to an unpresedented level. And with their recent (as in the last years) focus on contributing, valuing, and pushing open source they have my full respect for being able to see that this is the way of the future. Perspectives, I guess.
  - xyproto 6y ago
    They would also have pushed vendor lock-in to an unprecedented level, if they were allowed to.
  - fartcannon 6y ago
    Microsoft are leeches. They're currently in the extending phase of their EEE open source run. If they succeed, they'll once again lock everything down and thus hold everyone back.

jonp888 6y ago

The Rpi Foundation already worked together with Microsoft on Windows IoT Core, and Tte Raspbian distribution includes many different packages from many different authors, some commercial, even though some of them may not be used by everyone. So I think it's fairly clear they do not share your extreme views on Microsoft, and on not installing any software that is not needed by every user. You picked the wrong distro.

mijndert 6y ago

You're mad because your Raspberry Pi offers you the possibility to install a piece of software you have no interest in? Microsoft can't track you if you just simply... don't install vscode. It's that simple.

m4r35n357 6y ago
Rubbish, the repo is accesssed on "apt update"
vetinari 6y ago
> Microsoft can't track you if you just simply... don't install vscode. Not really true. As the GP wrote: > It pings MS every time an update occurs is exactly true. You will ping Microsoft every single time you run 'apt update', even if you have nothing installed from this repo. Ideally, the repo should be disabled by default.
- viro 6y ago
  ah yes every repo is tracking you. -_-
  - vetinari 6y ago
    well, because enabling a repo only when you need it is sooo difficult -_-
    - viro 6y ago
      I have been using linux(slackware) since the late 90's. You are the first person I have ever seen even suggest that as an idea.
      - vetinari 6y ago
        Really? Slackware came with proprietary repos enabled by default? (I don't remember; I had slackware on floppies). Even Ubuntu didn't do that; their partners repo is off by default, if you want it, you can enable it. Fedora has similar mechanism, where it asks you when you first time run the Gnome Software.