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Plenty of people need to rethink their parenting then. I laugh when my kid falls down. I scream when I saw my kid trying to stick a key into an electrical out

by tw04 6y ago

Plenty of people need to rethink their parenting then. I laugh when my kid falls down. I scream when I saw my kid trying to stick a key into an electrical outlet, and I screamed when I saw my kid trying to put a finger into a vornado fan. Modern fans aren't the same as the box fans we grew up with. And adult would likely walk away with an emergency room bill and a bunch of stiches. A small child would likely lose a finger.

brmgb 6y ago
If it makes you sleep better, most household fans are designed to not severe fingers. They use plastic blades (please don't buy household fans with steel blades) which are both light and dull. You might break it but a major cut is highly unlikely.
- saurik 6y ago
  Yeah... if anything I would have said the opposite: I remember when fans were made of metal or at least had sharp plastic blades. Now, everything's designed for some combination of cheap construction and liability reduction. (And, also, feels a bit more "disposable"... the fans my parents had when I was a kid were designed to be taken apart to fully clean, and I do remember taking them apart and running them without the covers as I was "one of those" kids ;P but I think I'm just expected to throw these plastic fans I have away if they get dusty?...) I just purposefully stuck my pinky finger into my fan on fully speed and it didn't even hurt. (I guess I'll admit that the Vornado on the other side of the room looks a bit more intimidating, but I'm not sure I could actually get my finger into it anyway... the one where I succeeded was actually really hard as, despite my fingers being pretty slender and long, I could barely find an angle where I could touch the blade.)
- kwdc 6y ago
  > designed to not sever fingers Where is the fun in that? I say sharpen the blades and make it a real teaching moment.
  - tremon 6y ago
    Only the worst teachers teach by maiming.
    - efreak 6y ago
      As a side effect, it's probably also more efficient.
      - alasdair_ 6y ago
        At least at learning the lesson "did my teacher have anything at all to do with this? If they did, I'm not getting anywhere near it because that person is a fucking psycho."
    - flak 6y ago
      This is debatable I think
- StillBored 6y ago
  Ever stuck your finger in a fan with a metal blade? I have, know what happened? Nothing. I have a couple 80-100 year old GE fans. Putting your finger in the front doesn't do anything but push it out. Which makes sense if you look at the shape of the blades. The side and back are a little scarier, but i'm guessing unless you really jab it in fast, or get unlucky in some way the worse that will happen is some scraped up skin. They are definitely not _designed_ to sever fingers, for that you need a tablesaw. And none of them have enough rotating mass or HP that you can't stick your finger in the back and actually stop them by keeping your finger against the blades as they try and push your finger. So, I'm not saying it cant happen, but your kid probably has a greater chance of losing a finger in your car door, or various other places like that before you have to worry about the fans. If you want to experiment with this find something approximating a finger and give it a try, maybe the woody bits of a leftover piece of asparagus.
  - finnh 6y ago
    I have a scar from a poorly-stitched cut on my finger from a "vintage" fan. I wasn't trying to stick my finger in it; i was absentmindedly directing it away from me and my finger apparently missed the cage and interacted instead with the blade! Glad I still have that finger. It didn't feel particularly close to being severed, it just cut to the bone and then pushed my finger out of the way. Kinda NBD, but ER visits to teaching hospitals are always annoyingly slow...
rmason 6y ago
I watched my dad putting on a rubber glove to pull out a single prong from a broken plug stuck in an electrical outlet. I was perhaps 2-2.5 years old. I asked why he needed the glove. My Dad with his wry Irish humor said it was to get a strong grip. I told him that I thought I could do it without the glove. He told me to give it a try and I did. What I did was promptly fall on my ass and that's how I learned the power of electricity.
- alasdair_ 6y ago
  Was your dad actually Irish, or was he from America? The Irish use 240V and that shit will kill you.
  - mPReDiToR 6y ago
    As posted above, I had 240v as a child. Twice in my life I've had 240v,it hurts, but not fatal. At least, not so far. I don't plan on finding out if it really is "third time lucky" lol
  - rmason 6y ago
    Dad was an American but strongly identified as Irish. He said my great grandfather who I never knew spoke with an Irish brogue. When I was 16 I was working on my ham radio's linear amplifier. I was certain that I had shorted all the capacitors but one still held a charge and once again with much more force knocked me on my ass. For days I could see the line up my arm where the electricity travelled. After that I always grounded the capacitors three times just to be sure!
brian_cunnie 6y ago
I didn't put a key in an electrical outlet, but in Paris when I was a kid I was having trouble sticking the plug in the 220V outlet so I held it tight by the prongs & plugged it in & boy did that feel weird. I never did that again. I never told my parents about it because I would have gotten yelled at. At camp we put crickets on the electric fence, but nothing happened to them, so I grabbed the electric fence, and that was a powerful jolt. I never did that again, either.
- eric-hu 6y ago
  Wait you went to a summer camp with an electrified fence? Is that common?
  - Johnythree 6y ago
    Very common in rural areas. Electric fences are cheap and easy to relocate. But these are not the lethal electric fences that you see in trashy science fiction movies. These are specially designed to put out a high voltage pulse which gives a nasty bite, but is basically harmless.
  - dagw 6y ago
    Sure I assume so, certainly ones I've been to. I mean the camp obviously wasn't using electric fences to keep the kids in, but the surrounding farmers where using electric fences to keep their cattle/horses/sheep out of the summer camp.
- mPReDiToR 6y ago
  Some childhood anecdotes... One xmas when I was less than 5yo I jammed a knife into our 240v socket and blew the fuse on the Electricity Board side of the fusebox. They had to send an engineer out to turn the power on so we could continue cooking the turkey. The other is from a sibling comment. With primary school, 10 years old, we went to the Lake District and were introduced to electeic fences by everyone holding hands with the person next to them, and the teacher explaining that he would touch the wire with the back of his hand to avoid muscle contraction. Because I was "that kid" I was placed at the far end of the chain, where I assume it tingled more. That was fun. We used to put PP9 batteries on our tongues for tingles. Just for fun. I do recall dangerously letting .22 blanks off with a brick and a piece of brick making an entry and exit wound through the outside fleshy part of my hand. Couldn't let mum know that I was even bleeding in case she asked why! Touching the wires hanging out of the wall where the clock hung was fab, until I flew across the room and sat on the sofa unexpectedly. You really do learn respect for insulation at this point.
jiveturkey 6y ago
it’s ok to stick a thing in an outlet. you get a minor jolt that’s it. licking the terminals of a 9V battery (a dare we did as kids) is worse.
MingLEnF 6y ago
As a kid - I've put two really long (sweater sewing) needles into power outlet. I guess luckily I hit earth/ground with one of them - since we had differential (RCD) circuit breaker(s) installed it just shut off electricity in the apartment. If I managed to hit both into real live and neutral - the differential breaker wouldn't have done a thing, and I wouldn't be typing this.

by tw04 6y ago

brmgb 6y ago

If it makes you sleep better, most household fans are designed to not severe fingers. They use plastic blades (please don't buy household fans with steel blades) which are both light and dull. You might break it but a major cut is highly unlikely.

saurik 6y ago
Yeah... if anything I would have said the opposite: I remember when fans were made of metal or at least had sharp plastic blades. Now, everything's designed for some combination of cheap construction and liability reduction. (And, also, feels a bit more "disposable"... the fans my parents had when I was a kid were designed to be taken apart to fully clean, and I do remember taking them apart and running them without the covers as I was "one of those" kids ;P but I think I'm just expected to throw these plastic fans I have away if they get dusty?...) I just purposefully stuck my pinky finger into my fan on fully speed and it didn't even hurt. (I guess I'll admit that the Vornado on the other side of the room looks a bit more intimidating, but I'm not sure I could actually get my finger into it anyway... the one where I succeeded was actually really hard as, despite my fingers being pretty slender and long, I could barely find an angle where I could touch the blade.)
kwdc 6y ago
> designed to not sever fingers Where is the fun in that? I say sharpen the blades and make it a real teaching moment.
- tremon 6y ago
  Only the worst teachers teach by maiming.
  - efreak 6y ago
    As a side effect, it's probably also more efficient.
    - alasdair_ 6y ago
      At least at learning the lesson "did my teacher have anything at all to do with this? If they did, I'm not getting anywhere near it because that person is a fucking psycho."
  - flak 6y ago
    This is debatable I think
StillBored 6y ago
Ever stuck your finger in a fan with a metal blade? I have, know what happened? Nothing. I have a couple 80-100 year old GE fans. Putting your finger in the front doesn't do anything but push it out. Which makes sense if you look at the shape of the blades. The side and back are a little scarier, but i'm guessing unless you really jab it in fast, or get unlucky in some way the worse that will happen is some scraped up skin. They are definitely not _designed_ to sever fingers, for that you need a tablesaw. And none of them have enough rotating mass or HP that you can't stick your finger in the back and actually stop them by keeping your finger against the blades as they try and push your finger. So, I'm not saying it cant happen, but your kid probably has a greater chance of losing a finger in your car door, or various other places like that before you have to worry about the fans. If you want to experiment with this find something approximating a finger and give it a try, maybe the woody bits of a leftover piece of asparagus.
- finnh 6y ago
  I have a scar from a poorly-stitched cut on my finger from a "vintage" fan. I wasn't trying to stick my finger in it; i was absentmindedly directing it away from me and my finger apparently missed the cage and interacted instead with the blade! Glad I still have that finger. It didn't feel particularly close to being severed, it just cut to the bone and then pushed my finger out of the way. Kinda NBD, but ER visits to teaching hospitals are always annoyingly slow...

rmason 6y ago

I watched my dad putting on a rubber glove to pull out a single prong from a broken plug stuck in an electrical outlet. I was perhaps 2-2.5 years old. I asked why he needed the glove. My Dad with his wry Irish humor said it was to get a strong grip. I told him that I thought I could do it without the glove. He told me to give it a try and I did. What I did was promptly fall on my ass and that's how I learned the power of electricity.

alasdair_ 6y ago
Was your dad actually Irish, or was he from America? The Irish use 240V and that shit will kill you.
- mPReDiToR 6y ago
  As posted above, I had 240v as a child. Twice in my life I've had 240v,it hurts, but not fatal. At least, not so far. I don't plan on finding out if it really is "third time lucky" lol
- rmason 6y ago
  Dad was an American but strongly identified as Irish. He said my great grandfather who I never knew spoke with an Irish brogue. When I was 16 I was working on my ham radio's linear amplifier. I was certain that I had shorted all the capacitors but one still held a charge and once again with much more force knocked me on my ass. For days I could see the line up my arm where the electricity travelled. After that I always grounded the capacitors three times just to be sure!

brian_cunnie 6y ago

I didn't put a key in an electrical outlet, but in Paris when I was a kid I was having trouble sticking the plug in the 220V outlet so I held it tight by the prongs & plugged it in & boy did that feel weird. I never did that again. I never told my parents about it because I would have gotten yelled at. At camp we put crickets on the electric fence, but nothing happened to them, so I grabbed the electric fence, and that was a powerful jolt. I never did that again, either.

eric-hu 6y ago
Wait you went to a summer camp with an electrified fence? Is that common?
- Johnythree 6y ago
  Very common in rural areas. Electric fences are cheap and easy to relocate. But these are not the lethal electric fences that you see in trashy science fiction movies. These are specially designed to put out a high voltage pulse which gives a nasty bite, but is basically harmless.
- dagw 6y ago
  Sure I assume so, certainly ones I've been to. I mean the camp obviously wasn't using electric fences to keep the kids in, but the surrounding farmers where using electric fences to keep their cattle/horses/sheep out of the summer camp.
mPReDiToR 6y ago
Some childhood anecdotes... One xmas when I was less than 5yo I jammed a knife into our 240v socket and blew the fuse on the Electricity Board side of the fusebox. They had to send an engineer out to turn the power on so we could continue cooking the turkey. The other is from a sibling comment. With primary school, 10 years old, we went to the Lake District and were introduced to electeic fences by everyone holding hands with the person next to them, and the teacher explaining that he would touch the wire with the back of his hand to avoid muscle contraction. Because I was "that kid" I was placed at the far end of the chain, where I assume it tingled more. That was fun. We used to put PP9 batteries on our tongues for tingles. Just for fun. I do recall dangerously letting .22 blanks off with a brick and a piece of brick making an entry and exit wound through the outside fleshy part of my hand. Couldn't let mum know that I was even bleeding in case she asked why! Touching the wires hanging out of the wall where the clock hung was fab, until I flew across the room and sat on the sofa unexpectedly. You really do learn respect for insulation at this point.

jiveturkey 6y ago

it’s ok to stick a thing in an outlet. you get a minor jolt that’s it. licking the terminals of a 9V battery (a dare we did as kids) is worse.

MingLEnF 6y ago

As a kid - I've put two really long (sweater sewing) needles into power outlet. I guess luckily I hit earth/ground with one of them - since we had differential (RCD) circuit breaker(s) installed it just shut off electricity in the apartment. If I managed to hit both into real live and neutral - the differential breaker wouldn't have done a thing, and I wouldn't be typing this.