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Hm. This article is rather terse. > The energy it uses could power all kettles used in the UK for 27 years, it said. Comparisons like this only say "one thing
by CaptArmchair 6y ago
Hm. This article is rather terse.
> The energy it uses could power all kettles used in the UK for 27 years, it said.
Comparisons like this only say "one thing consumes more power then another thing". But that's only the tip of the iceberg. It doesn't tell the whole story.
The article doesn't go on to ask the bigger questions.
What's the fraction of global power consumption that's dedicated to Bitcoin? What's the fraction of fossil fuel based versus renewable power consumed by Bitcoin? In what respects does Bitcoin power consumption affect pricing of power on the energy market? Does Bitcoin power consumption directly affect power availability in households and industries? How does this compare between different regions across the globe?
Arguably, mining Bitcoinis going to have a massive environmental hit if a miner relies on power generated by a coal plant, or a hydrothermal plant. Two extreme examples come to mind would be a "dark" mining operation in a non-descript sub-urban building in mainland China, versus a mining operation in Iceland.
To my mind, Bitcoin as a "power hog" isn't the primary issue. The big issue is energy production, delivery and consumption as a whole. Bitcoin is the business case that painfully shows the shortcomings and the inequities in today's energy markets.
I think Bitcoin should prompt us to find answers to these questions.
> "It turned around and spent $1.5bn on Bitcoin, which is mostly mined with electricity from coal. Their subsidy needs to be examined."
That's just token support on the part of Tesla. Moreover, the problem with this criticism is that it attacks a brand, and does not address the underlying problem.
Arguably, Tesla or Apple or Samsung could also be condemned for using natural resources such as rare metals which come with a massive environmental impact as well.
All of that is - ultimately - an example of large private actors externalizing the costs, the impact, associated with their products and services towards society and the biosphere. And that's not a new tale. I think that Tesla buying $1.5bn in and of itself is rather inconsequential towards driving this notion home.
In that regard, the article fails to show the bigger picture and inadvertently ends up painting investing in Bitcoin as "morally wrong". Something which - historically - has always been the case (see: Usury - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usury https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usury). Only now, it uses a weird, nonsensical argument - "it could power all kettles used in the UK for 27 years" - to make that case.
- krageon 6y agoThank you for writing a comment about environmental impact that is actually well thought out. I really appreciate it.
- antonvs 6y agoAnother relevant comparison is, how much power and other resources are used by all the financial institutions that perform a similar function to the Bitcoin network for storage and transfer of fiat currencies?
- stuaxo 6y agoGiven bitcoin is doing about 7 transactions a second, you might have trouble finding a financial institution small enough. I guess a very small hedge fund would probably cover it, one with about 15-30 people working at the organisation in total, they probably fit in a small office in London.
- ClumsyPilot 6y agoBut is transactions the right metric? Maybe we should compare it by total value, or smth. For example a national gold reserve does even fewer transactions, but it has power, security, etc. National bank doesn't do many transactions. Or lets compare it to something useless, how muxh power is used by casinos. Or better yet: all unused idle devices in the US use more power than bircoin does.
- cbzbc 6y agoCasinos generate significantly more useful economic activity.
- ClumsyPilot 6y agoBankrupt homeless gambing addicts forced into pedaling drugs are good for economy?