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Thanks for ruining it for us :( Why can't we have our 50 seconds of lighthearted internet tidbit without some journalist trying to force a story about it? A ra

Thanks for ruining it for us :( Why can't we have our 50 seconds of lighthearted internet tidbit without some journalist trying to force a story about it? A random dude working as a kitten is all I want to remember about this episode.

oars 6y ago
I disagree. If you liked Chris Brown's music but finding out about what he did to Rihanna makes you feel sick, would you actually want to be his fan?
- allarm 6y ago
  There’s a huge difference between being his fan and being a fan of his music.
  - scrollaway 6y ago
    I think GP's point is that if finding out about this does indeed ruin it for you, then it's probably a good thing you did find out about it. If you put importance on not separating the art from the artist, you can't then go around complaining that you're finding out about how shitty your favourite artist is. I personally do separate the two, but in either case I would want to know if someone who has influence on me via their art is a piece of shit; so i may make sure not to let them have influence on me any other way than via their art (or make the decision that I'm too turned off to continue enjoying their art).
  - DonHopkins 6y ago
    I have a hell of a hard time being amused by Dilbert comic strips any more.
nate_meurer 6y ago
Oddly, there are people out there who feel that exposing vicious government-employed predators is more important than preserving your blissful ignorance. At any rate, one nice thing about the internet is that nobody will force you to click the links, so you can easily maintain your happy-bubble if you so choose.
- imgabe 6y ago
  There are police and the justice system and people who will conduct investigations and have far more information about whatever happened who can mete out punishments if they are necessary. There is no need to sic the Internet lynch mob on every person unfortunate enough to get 5 seconds of fame for some dumb thing. Oddly enough, it is not the job of random people to pass judgement and harass strangers over the Internet based on a news article they skimmed for a couple seconds.
  - bravoetch 6y ago
    I find your position disturbing. You prefer a police state over social accountability? Fuck. That.
    - imgabe 6y ago
      I have no idea how you managed to misinterpret my comment that badly. The existence of police does not imply a police state. You prefer lynch mobs over due process? Fuck that.
      - judge2020 6y ago
        Nobody is forcing him to give up his rights over this incident, he isn’t going to jail, so calling it a “lynch mob” is disingenuous at best and a view-pushing exaggeration at worst. Just because something is legal doesn’t mean people have to like you for doing it, so what you say is a ‘lynch mob’ is just everyone collectively agreeing to not like someone for a few days.
        imgabe 6y ago
        No it is not just "people being mad at you for a couple days". Even people who are famous for good reasons and generally well liked get stalkers, occasionally violent ones. Pointing the attention of a hundred million plus people at someone and telling them "this person is bad and evil" all but guarantees there will be some nonzero number of mentally unbalanced people who will take it too seriously. You might as well shove them in front of a bus. Why should you or I or anyone not directly involved need to like or dislike this person who has zero impact on our lives beyond a moment of amusement? If he committed crimes, I hope he goes to jail. But I don't have all the facts about that and I'm not on the jury so that isn't and shouldn't be up to me. And no, reading one news article does not constitute all the facts.

oars 6y ago

I disagree. If you liked Chris Brown's music but finding out about what he did to Rihanna makes you feel sick, would you actually want to be his fan?

allarm 6y ago
There’s a huge difference between being his fan and being a fan of his music.
- scrollaway 6y ago
  I think GP's point is that if finding out about this does indeed ruin it for you, then it's probably a good thing you did find out about it. If you put importance on not separating the art from the artist, you can't then go around complaining that you're finding out about how shitty your favourite artist is. I personally do separate the two, but in either case I would want to know if someone who has influence on me via their art is a piece of shit; so i may make sure not to let them have influence on me any other way than via their art (or make the decision that I'm too turned off to continue enjoying their art).
- DonHopkins 6y ago
  I have a hell of a hard time being amused by Dilbert comic strips any more.

nate_meurer 6y ago

Oddly, there are people out there who feel that exposing vicious government-employed predators is more important than preserving your blissful ignorance. At any rate, one nice thing about the internet is that nobody will force you to click the links, so you can easily maintain your happy-bubble if you so choose.

imgabe 6y ago
There are police and the justice system and people who will conduct investigations and have far more information about whatever happened who can mete out punishments if they are necessary. There is no need to sic the Internet lynch mob on every person unfortunate enough to get 5 seconds of fame for some dumb thing. Oddly enough, it is not the job of random people to pass judgement and harass strangers over the Internet based on a news article they skimmed for a couple seconds.
- bravoetch 6y ago
  I find your position disturbing. You prefer a police state over social accountability? Fuck. That.
  - imgabe 6y ago
    I have no idea how you managed to misinterpret my comment that badly. The existence of police does not imply a police state. You prefer lynch mobs over due process? Fuck that.
    - judge2020 6y ago
      Nobody is forcing him to give up his rights over this incident, he isn’t going to jail, so calling it a “lynch mob” is disingenuous at best and a view-pushing exaggeration at worst. Just because something is legal doesn’t mean people have to like you for doing it, so what you say is a ‘lynch mob’ is just everyone collectively agreeing to not like someone for a few days.
      - imgabe 6y ago
        No it is not just "people being mad at you for a couple days". Even people who are famous for good reasons and generally well liked get stalkers, occasionally violent ones. Pointing the attention of a hundred million plus people at someone and telling them "this person is bad and evil" all but guarantees there will be some nonzero number of mentally unbalanced people who will take it too seriously. You might as well shove them in front of a bus. Why should you or I or anyone not directly involved need to like or dislike this person who has zero impact on our lives beyond a moment of amusement? If he committed crimes, I hope he goes to jail. But I don't have all the facts about that and I'm not on the jury so that isn't and shouldn't be up to me. And no, reading one news article does not constitute all the facts.