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Temporarily reviewing until 2024 or 2028.
by meddlepal 6y ago
Temporarily reviewing until 2024 or 2028.
- mlindner 6y agoTrump was historically unusual in this respect. So unless Trump comes back for re-election and wins, I don't think you need to worry.
- minikites 6y agoIn what way is Trump unusual? He picked up the torch from Ronald Reagan and Trump currently has many people in both branches of Congress who support him and his ideas.
- mhh__ 6y agoI think Trump is unusual in that he is genuinely a stupid man who is incredibly easily manipulated - e.g. See Rex Tillerson's comments on it wrt. having to use pretty graphs and no words for the president, and Bob Woodwards calls. Nixon was a tortured soul, but he was no fool. Beyond that he's not too unique as a president - at least in the abstract: No one else has dared to be so bold in their disregard for the constitution, and yet so inept in executing it.
- mhh__ 6y agoIf you're going to downvote please counterargue. If you can find me some evidence of Donald Trump being a genius then go right ahead...
- pontifier 6y agoI'm still not sure if he can read or not.
- SuoDuanDao 6y agoI'd bet even odds he's dyslexic, that condition is over represented among people in his line of work and would explain a lot of his behaviour.
- SuoDuanDao 6y agoI'm not sure what skills you consider necessary to win both a contested primary election and a national election, but I'd consider many of them intellectual skills and the competition to be of a high level.
- mhh__ 6y agoPresumably you've never heard of the Idiot Savant?
- TheRealSteel 6y agoMoney. Money is what's necessary to win an election in America.
- DuskStar 6y agoBloomberg's presidential run would perhaps be a counterexample there.
- enraged_camel 6y agoMoney and name recognition. If it wasn't for the TV show 'Apprentice', it is doubtful that people would have known who he was. That show is what established his (completely fabricated) reputation as a successful, skillful businessman, and he was able to ride that wave all the way to the White House.
- dragonwriter 6y ago> That show is what established his (completely fabricated) reputation as a successful, skillful businessman Uh, no, The Apprentice traded on that reputation, which had already been established decades earlier.
- enraged_camel 6y agoI meant in the public perception. Most people in America didn't know who Trump was before that show aired.
- peytn 6y agoI just think some of the concerns about Trump veer towards the aesthetic. Some people react to him like they react to a bad painting. The rest is just rationalization. For your specific example, polishing graphs and communicating visually sounds totally valid in the context of any other executive.
- mhh__ 6y agoThe point is that he physically cannot read the papers they give him unless they have absolutely enormous middle school graphs
- fitzie 6y agoI rather the stupid man who approves a pipeline that keeps jobs and money in this country than the smart guy who kills the jobs, sends the money away for oil that will come over in railcars at higher cost, and no benefit for the environment at all, at least according to the scientists.
- Dma54rhs 6y agoPeople just find these comments lazy and boring. Just like calling Biden senile by the other camp etc.
- zzzeek 6y agohundreds of congresspeople and a handful of senators have gleefully supported his attempt at a violent overthrow of the US.
- meepmorp 6y agoTrump's environmental regulatory bonfire is something Republican presidents have sought to do since Nixon.
- refurb 6y agoNixon created the EPA.
- meepmorp 6y agoWhich is why I said since Nixon.
- refurb 6y agoSince is usually inclusive of the subject mentioned. “Since Reagan, the conservative movement saw a resurgence.” That sentence would make no sense if “since” meant “immediately after”.
- meepmorp 6y agosince - adv. after some point in the past; at a subsequent time In that sense if the word, the sentence: "Trump's environmental regulatory bonfire is something Republican presidents have sought to do since Nixon" would indicate Republican presidents in the time period subsequent to Nixon. Which I think makes sense, ymmv.
- dreamcompiler 6y agoTrump's presidency was a blueprint for the nationalistic authoritarian overthrow of democracy. The only reason it failed is that Trump is an utter fool who surrounded himself with fools. The fascists who run in 2024 will learn from this. They'll have triple-digit IQs and they'll have a much better chance of succeeding.
- minikites 6y agoI agree, and it really shines a light on how vile the Republican calls for "unity" are.
- Supermancho 6y ago> They'll have triple-digit IQs Not sure where they would find a Republican politico with this quality in such a short time. Might be something that happens after a 12 year D presidency if Biden ends up stepping down Jan 21st leaving the presidency to Harris and her running for 2 terms as a minority woman that didn't have to deal with questions of inefficacy from a traditional election cycle.
- AnimalMuppet 6y agoIf Biden steps down on January 21st (why that specific date?), then Harris can only run for one term, since she would be president for more than half of this one. [Edit: Presuming you meant January 21st of this year. It would still be true if he stepped down next year, though.]
- Supermancho 6y agoYou are correct, that is what I meant.
- mschuster91 6y ago> So unless Trump comes back for re-election and wins, I don't think you need to worry. There will always be someone similar to his thinking, but more competent in execution and networking. The world was incredibly lucky that Trump had a short attention span and was pretty much seen as disgusting by most of the political establishment of both parties - they saw him as an useful tool for their own purposes (tax cuts, immigration/environment/anti-LGBT/anti-abortion policy), but didn't let Trump accomplish much else. To make it worse: the Republican Party is so overrun with rabid Trumpists and so dependent on his voter base (because moderates have fled to the Democrats) that they cannot even sanction someone like MT Greene, who openly spouts QAnon conspiracies. What once began with the Tea Party and had its culmination with the Trump Presidency will not be vanished easily... to gain back the moderate side of voters, the Republicans would have to commit to a cleaning so deep that it may reduce them to opposition for many years - in a time where lots of the population are going to shift left as an after-effect of the coronavirus shocks and the "old" Republican voter class gets demographically eliminated. They are caught between a rock (demographics) and a hard place (essentially, call them what they are, Nazis and fascists), and are running out of time. It is very well possible that they double down on the right-wing train in 2022 / 2024 for one last shot at success.
- zzzeek 6y agoby all indications he is going to run again, and after four years of a boring competent government that fails to inspire people to come out and vote like crazy he may very well win. this whole next two years (until 2022 when D's will have a very low chance of retaining the house) might be pretty much a solitary oasis before we dive right back into authoritariansim v2.0.
- Dirlewanger 6y agoDoes competent to you mean marching the military back into Syria on the first day in office?
- mcguire 6y agoI thought that was Trump (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/most-u-s-troops-withdraw-others-move-syria-help-guard-n1076691 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/most-u-s-troops-withdr...)