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I would say both. User in the sense that people expect the web to behave and be just as rich and fluid as a native app (and will often leave or mistrust you oth

I would say both. User in the sense that people expect the web to behave and be just as rich and fluid as a native app (and will often leave or mistrust you otherwise) and Client in the sense that having a rich web experience drives revenue and whatever other business metrics. > it is staggering how easy it is to break many of those sites just by resizing the browser window. I should say that a responsive website does not actually mean a website that responds to resizing the browser window - and that should not be taken to mean it's "broken". Saying that makes you sound like a typical sweatshop PM or stakeholder :) - i won't belabour the actual meaning here.

Person5478 6y ago
> and will often leave or mistrust you otherwise Oh bullcrap. This is just a rationalization from people who like the shiny.
alpaca128 6y ago
> I should say that a responsive website does not actually mean a website that responds to resizing the browser window It does though, at least indirectly. If the point is to handle different screen sizes and resolutions properly that also has the side effect of handling window resizing; and if one doesn't work correctly the other will most likely have issues as well in some situations. You can pick apart words and meanings as much as you want - a UI that stops fully functioning after the user makes a valid input I consider it broken. Hopefully you wouldn't call it "working as intended" either when a site becomes unscrollable, freezes up or literally moves sideways out of the browser's viewport when you type in a text field. Resizing a window is not a weird edge case, it's been a basic UI feature for decades, supported even on some smartphones and tablets, and desktop applications have been able to handle it fine.
- mouzogu 6y ago
  No what you are talking about is called fluid design not responsive. So whether a website responds fluidly to browser resizing is a design decision and not indicative of something being broken. This is such a common and frustrating misconception.
  - alpaca128 6y ago
    Sure, you can call not supporting one of the most basic UI features a "design decision", but it's a terrible decision and it won't protect you against valid complaints from users, just like apps like Skype got complaints for mishandling the window's close button. Intentionally broken is still broken.

Person5478 6y ago

> and will often leave or mistrust you otherwise Oh bullcrap. This is just a rationalization from people who like the shiny.

alpaca128 6y ago

> I should say that a responsive website does not actually mean a website that responds to resizing the browser window It does though, at least indirectly. If the point is to handle different screen sizes and resolutions properly that also has the side effect of handling window resizing; and if one doesn't work correctly the other will most likely have issues as well in some situations. You can pick apart words and meanings as much as you want - a UI that stops fully functioning after the user makes a valid input I consider it broken. Hopefully you wouldn't call it "working as intended" either when a site becomes unscrollable, freezes up or literally moves sideways out of the browser's viewport when you type in a text field. Resizing a window is not a weird edge case, it's been a basic UI feature for decades, supported even on some smartphones and tablets, and desktop applications have been able to handle it fine.

mouzogu 6y ago
No what you are talking about is called fluid design not responsive. So whether a website responds fluidly to browser resizing is a design decision and not indicative of something being broken. This is such a common and frustrating misconception.
- alpaca128 6y ago
  Sure, you can call not supporting one of the most basic UI features a "design decision", but it's a terrible decision and it won't protect you against valid complaints from users, just like apps like Skype got complaints for mishandling the window's close button. Intentionally broken is still broken.