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Easy: Plant a trillion trees. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jul/04/planting-billions-trees-best-tackle-climate-crisis-scientists-canopy-emissions

Easy: Plant a trillion trees. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jul/04/planting-billions-trees-best-tackle-climate-crisis-scientists-canopy-emissions https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jul/04/planting...

libertine 6y ago
But even this poses a challenge no? 1 trillion trees successfully planted in a short period of time doesn't sound like a trivial task. You need space, you need to plant/nurture them, and assure they survive long enough/remain healthy.
- ralphlyons 6y ago
  You just need a piece of land and a lot of saplings. Most trees can take care of themselves once planted.
  - libertine 6y ago
    Well with some quick google search, in the US there's an average of 4816 trees per acre of primarily forest land, so 1 trillion trees you'd just need 207.641.196 acres. The total area of forest land in US is 501 million acres, with 2.5 trillion trees of all types. So you'd need to just find 207 million acres of viable land, 1 trillion saplings and enough people to plant them. In my point of view, that's a bit challenging - but I'm no expert in such matters.
    - joubert 6y ago
      You don’t have to plant all the trees in the US. There’s one atmosphere.
      - libertine 6y ago
        Of course, I used the US as a reference.
    - RTGthelame 6y ago
      I think it is important to note that the 4816 figure - presumably from the Forest Services report on New England forests - includes on average 4600 immature seedlings and saplings which will not reach maturity due to space requirements, and 200 trees with trunks larger than 5". Even if we consider an aggressive distribution of 750 trees/acre you're planting a landmass equivalent to 10x California. Challenging indeed!
ralphlyons 6y ago
If there are a billion people in the world able to plant trees, that's a 1000 trees each. That's about 10-20 days of work per person (I have planted about 50 trees in half a day once). You're right, this would be easy.
- manquer 6y ago
  You will need land which don't encroach on agriculture or other industrial use land. Land which gets enough rainfall every year. Also planting is just one step in the process , you will need to maintain it, if the trees actually have to grow.
  - bratcomplex 6y ago
    tree planting ≠ forest planting. But on that notion a “productive” artificial forest solves this issue. build forest with plants that provide utility. But are family to the local environment. it’s a concept that has been proven
- collyw 6y ago
  It's not as if we haven't managed to automate agriculture with machinery before.
bigbizisverywyz 6y ago
Would you not then need to wait until they were mature enough to have extracted a large enough quantity of Co2, and then chip them up and bury them back underground where all the oil came from in order to net extract Co2 before planting new trees in their place and going for another round. Otherwise the Co2 will be returned to the atmosphere once the tree rots or is burned for fuel.
- Daishiman 6y ago
  The right types of tree and forestry techniques make them net carbon sinks for a very long time, putting carbon in the soil.
- mac01021 6y ago
  Forests are self-sustaining, if you don't cut them down. Individual trees die and decay, but their place is taken by their offspring and the total biomass of the forest does not decrease over time. The amount of carbon stored in the forest is approximately proportional to that mass.
  - belorn 6y ago
    > if you don't cut them down. Forests that we don't cut down is called reservations. In Sweden there is a law that states that any forest cut down must be replanted unless used for farming or new buildings. I also recall Norawy having the similar law. If we counted that as carbon removal, we would have a massive carbon net negative from this pretty old law. The law is not a carbon removal strategy. It simply maintain current biomass over time.
    - mac01021 6y ago
      That's right. If you want to sequester more carbon, you have to create more forest.
11235813213455 6y ago
fruit trees mostly also, air cleaning + food (and great food), double win. Figs, clementines, mandarines (currently I'm finding so many around, just on the ground, in more or less abandoned gardens), persimmons, medlars..

libertine 6y ago

But even this poses a challenge no? 1 trillion trees successfully planted in a short period of time doesn't sound like a trivial task. You need space, you need to plant/nurture them, and assure they survive long enough/remain healthy.

ralphlyons 6y ago
You just need a piece of land and a lot of saplings. Most trees can take care of themselves once planted.
- libertine 6y ago
  Well with some quick google search, in the US there's an average of 4816 trees per acre of primarily forest land, so 1 trillion trees you'd just need 207.641.196 acres. The total area of forest land in US is 501 million acres, with 2.5 trillion trees of all types. So you'd need to just find 207 million acres of viable land, 1 trillion saplings and enough people to plant them. In my point of view, that's a bit challenging - but I'm no expert in such matters.
  - joubert 6y ago
    You don’t have to plant all the trees in the US. There’s one atmosphere.
    - libertine 6y ago
      Of course, I used the US as a reference.
  - RTGthelame 6y ago
    I think it is important to note that the 4816 figure - presumably from the Forest Services report on New England forests - includes on average 4600 immature seedlings and saplings which will not reach maturity due to space requirements, and 200 trees with trunks larger than 5". Even if we consider an aggressive distribution of 750 trees/acre you're planting a landmass equivalent to 10x California. Challenging indeed!

ralphlyons 6y ago

If there are a billion people in the world able to plant trees, that's a 1000 trees each. That's about 10-20 days of work per person (I have planted about 50 trees in half a day once). You're right, this would be easy.

manquer 6y ago
You will need land which don't encroach on agriculture or other industrial use land. Land which gets enough rainfall every year. Also planting is just one step in the process , you will need to maintain it, if the trees actually have to grow.
- bratcomplex 6y ago
  tree planting ≠ forest planting. But on that notion a “productive” artificial forest solves this issue. build forest with plants that provide utility. But are family to the local environment. it’s a concept that has been proven
collyw 6y ago
It's not as if we haven't managed to automate agriculture with machinery before.

bigbizisverywyz 6y ago

Would you not then need to wait until they were mature enough to have extracted a large enough quantity of Co2, and then chip them up and bury them back underground where all the oil came from in order to net extract Co2 before planting new trees in their place and going for another round. Otherwise the Co2 will be returned to the atmosphere once the tree rots or is burned for fuel.

Daishiman 6y ago
The right types of tree and forestry techniques make them net carbon sinks for a very long time, putting carbon in the soil.
mac01021 6y ago
Forests are self-sustaining, if you don't cut them down. Individual trees die and decay, but their place is taken by their offspring and the total biomass of the forest does not decrease over time. The amount of carbon stored in the forest is approximately proportional to that mass.
- belorn 6y ago
  > if you don't cut them down. Forests that we don't cut down is called reservations. In Sweden there is a law that states that any forest cut down must be replanted unless used for farming or new buildings. I also recall Norawy having the similar law. If we counted that as carbon removal, we would have a massive carbon net negative from this pretty old law. The law is not a carbon removal strategy. It simply maintain current biomass over time.
  - mac01021 6y ago
    That's right. If you want to sequester more carbon, you have to create more forest.

11235813213455 6y ago

fruit trees mostly also, air cleaning + food (and great food), double win. Figs, clementines, mandarines (currently I'm finding so many around, just on the ground, in more or less abandoned gardens), persimmons, medlars..