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In my experience, that's not a real option in large, professional system admin settings. You wouldn't dare do that on a production machine without your change m

In my experience, that's not a real option in large, professional system admin settings. You wouldn't dare do that on a production machine without your change management process, and your team of admins won't care about installing micro on the thousands of machines you have to manage. You'd have to do a pull request to some kind of config management repo, and no one will agree your pet editor merits a deploy, and your boss will think you're wasting everyone's time. I'm not covering half of it. Trust me, it is just generally not an option for system administration in the large.

ilaksh 6y ago
You're right, of course it's impossible for anyone to approve installing a modern editor. How ignorant of me to suggest that. Everyone must use the editor and paradigm from the late 1970s. That's the only way professional system administrators and organizations can operate. No one has time to approve a pull request, no matter how outdated the editor is. We all learned it. Everyone else has to learn it also. Until the end of time. Amen.
- Brian_K_White 6y ago
  "How ignorant of you." is exactly correct.
- indigodaddy 6y ago
  I mean, I’d be surprised if the percentage of SAs that are proficient in vi is less than 90% (even that percentage is probably low), so I really don’t think it’s a problem that needs to be solved. vi/m works superbly as the main text editor on *nix servers. Sounds like you just hated it from the get go and refuse to learn it. And that’s also fine.
  - ilaksh 6y ago
    I learned it and use it all the time. It's just an outdated editor and religion. And there is no logical reason not to replace it with something modern and superior. And it's a shame that people are suggesting that young people waste their time with it. It's just amazing that says admins are literally suggessting they can't install a program.
    - indigodaddy 6y ago
      Given its prevalence in the SA landscape (which I don’t think even you can deny), to state that learning Vi would be a waste of time for any young person interested in the industry, would be, well, completely inaccurate. But we obviously completely disagree. We can just probably leave it at that.

ilaksh 6y ago

You're right, of course it's impossible for anyone to approve installing a modern editor. How ignorant of me to suggest that. Everyone must use the editor and paradigm from the late 1970s. That's the only way professional system administrators and organizations can operate. No one has time to approve a pull request, no matter how outdated the editor is. We all learned it. Everyone else has to learn it also. Until the end of time. Amen.

Brian_K_White 6y ago
"How ignorant of you." is exactly correct.
indigodaddy 6y ago
I mean, I’d be surprised if the percentage of SAs that are proficient in vi is less than 90% (even that percentage is probably low), so I really don’t think it’s a problem that needs to be solved. vi/m works superbly as the main text editor on *nix servers. Sounds like you just hated it from the get go and refuse to learn it. And that’s also fine.
- ilaksh 6y ago
  I learned it and use it all the time. It's just an outdated editor and religion. And there is no logical reason not to replace it with something modern and superior. And it's a shame that people are suggesting that young people waste their time with it. It's just amazing that says admins are literally suggessting they can't install a program.
  - indigodaddy 6y ago
    Given its prevalence in the SA landscape (which I don’t think even you can deny), to state that learning Vi would be a waste of time for any young person interested in the industry, would be, well, completely inaccurate. But we obviously completely disagree. We can just probably leave it at that.