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Movie actors, fitness/underwear models, basically everyone on the cover of Men's Health or on a movie poster. Hell, very significant % of not so impressingly lo

Movie actors, fitness/underwear models, basically everyone on the cover of Men's Health or on a movie poster. Hell, very significant % of not so impressingly looking guys in your local gym are on steroids. Just Google for stats on steroid usage, estimate how many people go to a gym and think what it means. The mystery of Hollywood diet and training to lose 10kg of fat and to put 5kg of muscle in 60 days starts to make sense as well. In many areas of the world it's completely risk-free as well as you won't get busted for possession of Testosterone or even stuff like Trenbolone.

User23 6y ago
Trenbolone is legal to possess in the USA. It's only illegal when you start putting it in yourself instead of cattle.
- sterlind 6y ago
  Trenbolone is Schedule III. It's illegal to possess unless you have a prescription, you can't legally order some without a vet prescribing it for your cow.
  - User23 6y ago
    The actual drug trenbolone is scheduled, but a number of trenbolone preparations are (or at least were) exempted from the CSA because of their agricultural importance[1]. As I said, it instantly becomes a CSA violation the second a nonveterinary use occurs, but simple possession of unaltered Finaplix-H, for example, is or at least was just fine. [1] https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1997-10-03/html/97-25973.htm https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1997-10-03/html/97-25...
ameister14 6y ago
Also age - it's actually possible to lose 10kg of fat and gain 5kg of muscle in 60 days without any testosterone or whatever boosters when you're 22. I have a very, very hard time believing you can do this at age 48-50, like Josh Brolin did to play Thanos.
- WalterBright 6y ago
  When I was 20 and started lifting regularly, I put on a lot of muscle very fast. But I plateaued in about 6 months and was never able to go past that. I didn't do any steriods, because a friend of mine went from "pillsbury doughboy" (his assessment) to very jacked in about 9 months. He used steroids, and was shocked to find he'd lost a couple inches in height. The doc told him it was the steroids, and even worse, he'd still lose the usual height when he aged (we all shrink as we age). He was pretty bummed about it, but still became very popular with the ladies and was happy about that.
  - treis 6y ago
    >He used steroids, and was shocked to find he'd lost a couple inches in height. The doc told him it was the steroids, and even worse, he'd still lose the usual height when he aged (we all shrink as we age). The things people believe constantly amaze me. Steroids don't make people shrink.
    - WalterBright 6y ago
      "Smoking cigarettes, drinking alcohol or caffeine excessively, extreme dieting and taking steroids and other medications can exacerbate height loss." https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424053111904194604576580720025344668 https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424053111904194604576580... Googling "do people get shorter as they age steroids" yields many more references to this.
      - treis 6y ago
        I did google that and found nothing that said that steroids would cause a healthy 20 something man to lose a couple inches in height. Your quote is quite wishy washy and not really supporting evidence to your claim.
        WalterBright 6y ago
        Nevertheless, steroids are still implicated in height loss. He took a lot of steroids (I don't know which ones), his doctor told him that was the cause, and nothing else accounted for it. Anyone considering steroids should consult with a physician first. Me, I wasn't willing to take the risk.

User23 6y ago

Trenbolone is legal to possess in the USA. It's only illegal when you start putting it in yourself instead of cattle.

sterlind 6y ago
Trenbolone is Schedule III. It's illegal to possess unless you have a prescription, you can't legally order some without a vet prescribing it for your cow.
- User23 6y ago
  The actual drug trenbolone is scheduled, but a number of trenbolone preparations are (or at least were) exempted from the CSA because of their agricultural importance[1]. As I said, it instantly becomes a CSA violation the second a nonveterinary use occurs, but simple possession of unaltered Finaplix-H, for example, is or at least was just fine. [1] https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1997-10-03/html/97-25973.htm https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1997-10-03/html/97-25...

ameister14 6y ago

Also age - it's actually possible to lose 10kg of fat and gain 5kg of muscle in 60 days without any testosterone or whatever boosters when you're 22. I have a very, very hard time believing you can do this at age 48-50, like Josh Brolin did to play Thanos.

WalterBright 6y ago
When I was 20 and started lifting regularly, I put on a lot of muscle very fast. But I plateaued in about 6 months and was never able to go past that. I didn't do any steriods, because a friend of mine went from "pillsbury doughboy" (his assessment) to very jacked in about 9 months. He used steroids, and was shocked to find he'd lost a couple inches in height. The doc told him it was the steroids, and even worse, he'd still lose the usual height when he aged (we all shrink as we age). He was pretty bummed about it, but still became very popular with the ladies and was happy about that.
- treis 6y ago
  >He used steroids, and was shocked to find he'd lost a couple inches in height. The doc told him it was the steroids, and even worse, he'd still lose the usual height when he aged (we all shrink as we age). The things people believe constantly amaze me. Steroids don't make people shrink.
  - WalterBright 6y ago
    "Smoking cigarettes, drinking alcohol or caffeine excessively, extreme dieting and taking steroids and other medications can exacerbate height loss." https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424053111904194604576580720025344668 https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424053111904194604576580... Googling "do people get shorter as they age steroids" yields many more references to this.
    - treis 6y ago
      I did google that and found nothing that said that steroids would cause a healthy 20 something man to lose a couple inches in height. Your quote is quite wishy washy and not really supporting evidence to your claim.
      - WalterBright 6y ago
        Nevertheless, steroids are still implicated in height loss. He took a lot of steroids (I don't know which ones), his doctor told him that was the cause, and nothing else accounted for it. Anyone considering steroids should consult with a physician first. Me, I wasn't willing to take the risk.