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Interesting how all the Silicon Valley brainiacs here on HN are far more interested in discussing the semantics of “meat” than the technology or economics. Kin

Interesting how all the Silicon Valley brainiacs here on HN are far more interested in discussing the semantics of “meat” than the technology or economics. Kind of disappointing, really.

tomcam 6y ago
Words are important. Kind of disappointing that you fail to understand that, really.
- shmageggy 6y ago
  And language constantly evolves. Also it’s irrelevant to the content of the article.
  - Layke1123 6y ago
    And that is part of the reason we need to be precise with our language. Last time I checked, we use a dead language in medicine precisely because it is not evolving, and we don't want to have to fight a battle on two fronts. A similar thing can be observed in programming languages like Python, where it's important to know which version is used, or even in law, as legal English is entirely different than the constantly evolving language of common parlance. To think definitions that directly relate to the product are irrelevant to a wholistic view of the article is naïve and petulant. If you have a novel insight, add it. If you want to criticize others, enjoy your downvotes.
  - tomcam 6y ago
    Upvoted because in retrospect I agree
Falling3 6y ago
Very disappointing. I'm not at all clear on the concern over semantics except in the case of lobbying groups and large companies on the animal ag side.
Dylan16807 6y ago
The article doesn't have a lot of substance about the economics, but there's a healthy amount of discussion about it anyway. The article has nothing about the tech, so you shouldn't be so demanding that people talk about the tech in this particular comment section.
bearbawl 6y ago
This is only if you think that people are only discussing semantic. But they are not of course.
3131s 6y ago
It's their cognitive dissonance at work. People, especially the type of folks here, will find anything to say that pushes the discussion away from the mass-slaughter of animals, because they know it's not justifiable, healthy, or sustainable. I know how it is, I ate meat at one point too. I had thought that as an elite athlete it was necessary to do so, but now five years without any meat I am stronger than ever. I have never had one of these weird "meat" burgers though. Americans... eat tofu, tempe, soybeans, long beans, mushrooms, seitan, nuts, kale, seeds, and more for protein and otherwise consume a lot of fruits and vegetables. American food culture is broken and if you live there you need to do everything possible to break away from it, otherwise you'll end up fat and sick like most Americans are.

Interesting how all the Silicon Valley brainiacs here on HN are far more interested in discussing the semantics of “meat” than the technology or economics. Kind of disappointing, really.

tomcam 6y ago

Words are important. Kind of disappointing that you fail to understand that, really.

shmageggy 6y ago
And language constantly evolves. Also it’s irrelevant to the content of the article.
- Layke1123 6y ago
  And that is part of the reason we need to be precise with our language. Last time I checked, we use a dead language in medicine precisely because it is not evolving, and we don't want to have to fight a battle on two fronts. A similar thing can be observed in programming languages like Python, where it's important to know which version is used, or even in law, as legal English is entirely different than the constantly evolving language of common parlance. To think definitions that directly relate to the product are irrelevant to a wholistic view of the article is naïve and petulant. If you have a novel insight, add it. If you want to criticize others, enjoy your downvotes.
- tomcam 6y ago
  Upvoted because in retrospect I agree

Falling3 6y ago

Very disappointing. I'm not at all clear on the concern over semantics except in the case of lobbying groups and large companies on the animal ag side.

Dylan16807 6y ago

The article doesn't have a lot of substance about the economics, but there's a healthy amount of discussion about it anyway. The article has nothing about the tech, so you shouldn't be so demanding that people talk about the tech in this particular comment section.

bearbawl 6y ago

This is only if you think that people are only discussing semantic. But they are not of course.

3131s 6y ago

It's their cognitive dissonance at work. People, especially the type of folks here, will find anything to say that pushes the discussion away from the mass-slaughter of animals, because they know it's not justifiable, healthy, or sustainable. I know how it is, I ate meat at one point too. I had thought that as an elite athlete it was necessary to do so, but now five years without any meat I am stronger than ever. I have never had one of these weird "meat" burgers though. Americans... eat tofu, tempe, soybeans, long beans, mushrooms, seitan, nuts, kale, seeds, and more for protein and otherwise consume a lot of fruits and vegetables. American food culture is broken and if you live there you need to do everything possible to break away from it, otherwise you'll end up fat and sick like most Americans are.