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What are good self-hosted alternatives? I remember looking at Commento (https://github.com/adtac/commento https://github.com/adtac/commento) before, but if peop

What are good self-hosted alternatives? I remember looking at Commento (https://github.com/adtac/commento https://github.com/adtac/commento) before, but if people have had good experiences with others I'd like to hear them.

input_sh 6y ago
I've seen some examples in which people embed Discourse discussions. There's also Coral (https://github.com/coralproject/talk https://github.com/coralproject/talk) which used to be Mozilla + Vox project before Mozilla handed it over to Vox completely, but I have no experience with it.
- wyattjoh 6y ago
  Lead developer at Coral here (so some experience :P) Coral is more suited typically to larger organizations trying to power multi-site community tools. It has a powerful moderation system that's all open source! It's probably overkill for a static blog or small site.
andreareina 6y ago
I helped someone set up discourse[1] a long time ago, don't know how it stands up these days; it's got basically zero presence in the parts of the web I'm around. [1] https://www.discourse.org/ https://www.discourse.org/
- akvadrako 6y ago
  Discourse is quite popular, I see it regularly on new sites. Though it doesn't really fit the same niche as disqus.
  - CarVac 6y ago
    I've seen it used to operate as footer comments on blogs.
    - chewxy 6y ago
      Dgraph Labs uses it. I am a bit ambivalent about it. For example: https://dgraph.io/blog/post/putting-it-all-together-part1/ https://dgraph.io/blog/post/putting-it-all-together-part1/ Here it says 7 comments. But you only get to see one. You have to click into the discourse post to get more. This is due to Discourse's threading model. 6 of the comments were replying to the one on the blog post itself.
      - rectang 6y ago
        I see 7 comments when I go to that page. Dig Dgraph fix something in the last hour? Or is the site treating you differently from me because I'm completely unknown to it?
      - mrjn 6y ago
        Discourse prefers a single level threading model, until Reddit or HN. So, you can in fact see all the 7 comments there. Not sure why you only see one.
        akvadrako 6y ago
        I also only see one - probably just a bug due to different browsers/adblockers.
- KajMagnus 6y ago
  > basically zero presence in the parts of the web I'm around What parts of the web are that, if I may ask? I think Discourse is popular in software and tech related organizations — I see it a lot on such websites.
supz_k 6y ago
Yep, commento is a great self-hosted alternative. There's also Isso[1] and utterances[2] (Github issues based) [1] - https://posativ.org/isso/ https://posativ.org/isso/ [2] - https://github.com/utterance/utterances https://github.com/utterance/utterances
mcorbin 6y ago
i'm the author of Commentator, a commenting system where comments are stored on any s3 compatible store (easier to manage than a DB or local storage): https://github.com/mcorbin/commentator https://github.com/mcorbin/commentator It's still WIP but it supports comments approval, has a rate limiter, a challenge system to avoid spammers... I already use it for my personal blog.
urtrs 6y ago
Remark42 is also good https://github.com/umputun/remark42 https://github.com/umputun/remark42
sambf 6y ago
I'm using Isso [0], it's simple, lightweight, and does the job. A demo is on their page. [0] https://posativ.org/isso/ https://posativ.org/isso/
- andrewflnr 6y ago
  That looks perfect.
- dbrgn 6y ago
  I've been using this for a few years already. Does it's job. I like it.
Doctor_Fegg 6y ago
Not self-hosted: One alternative I’ve seen a few times recently is to start your own subreddit. Post your articles to it, link to the Reddit thread at the bottom of each posting, and let the conversation take place over there.
- Daho0n 6y ago
  Eh, hosting on reddit isn't much better than Disqus.
  - corobo 6y ago
    Worse even. It's in Reddit's interest to get the reader off your blog and into their app
- titanomachy 6y ago
  Reddit has crippled their mobile browsing experience to push people towards the app. I'd prefer not to force all readers to download another app.
StavrosK 6y ago
Commento is abandoned, they have a bug that prevents login and it's gone unfixed for years: https://gitlab.com/commento/commento/-/issues/174 https://gitlab.com/commento/commento/-/issues/174
- prophesi 6y ago
  Unfixed for 1 year, not years. I've got an instance of Commento running on two of my sites and haven't run into / heard of this issue on Firefox. Though I'm not using the Docker image. Maybe give better steps to reproduce the issue, as it seems to only be happening to one other person? It does seem like Commento's development has lost its momentum (last commit was 6 months ago). The author likely isn't getting more funding from Mozilla and is focusing on their primary money-maker, the cloud-hosted service.
  - StavrosK 6y ago
    > Unfixed for 1 year, not years May 2019 is almost two years now. > Maybe give better steps to reproduce the issue, as it seems to only be happening to one other person? Or maybe we're the only ones who bothered using/reporting it. I don't really have any STR, they consist of "Install Commento, try to log in, you can't".
KajMagnus 6y ago
Talkyard Blog Comments, https://talkyard.io/blog-comments https://talkyard.io/blog-comments (I'm developing it. Open source: https://github.com/debiki/talkyard https://github.com/debiki/talkyard. Not yet so well documented — soon time to add more docs, ... as per this nice discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26002656 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26002656 )
darekkay 6y ago
My list should give you some ideas: https://darekkay.com/blog/static-site-comments/#self-hosted https://darekkay.com/blog/static-site-comments/#self-hosted
foxhop 6y ago
https://www.remarkbox.com https://www.remarkbox.com I'm the founder and in 2021, in the face of the Monopolistic take over of speach and allowing communities to self-moderate, I've made the service free! Reference: https://www.remarkbox.com/remarkbox-is-now-pay-what-you-can.html https://www.remarkbox.com/remarkbox-is-now-pay-what-you-can.... Worth reading the publicly released statement.
winrid 6y ago
I run one, and we support migrations from Commento - I already dropped the link once here, don't want to be too spammy :) I never understood Commento's SSO system. We went with HMAC instead.

input_sh 6y ago

I've seen some examples in which people embed Discourse discussions. There's also Coral (https://github.com/coralproject/talk https://github.com/coralproject/talk) which used to be Mozilla + Vox project before Mozilla handed it over to Vox completely, but I have no experience with it.

wyattjoh 6y ago
Lead developer at Coral here (so some experience :P) Coral is more suited typically to larger organizations trying to power multi-site community tools. It has a powerful moderation system that's all open source! It's probably overkill for a static blog or small site.

andreareina 6y ago

I helped someone set up discourse[1] a long time ago, don't know how it stands up these days; it's got basically zero presence in the parts of the web I'm around. [1] https://www.discourse.org/ https://www.discourse.org/

akvadrako 6y ago
Discourse is quite popular, I see it regularly on new sites. Though it doesn't really fit the same niche as disqus.
- CarVac 6y ago
  I've seen it used to operate as footer comments on blogs.
  - chewxy 6y ago
    Dgraph Labs uses it. I am a bit ambivalent about it. For example: https://dgraph.io/blog/post/putting-it-all-together-part1/ https://dgraph.io/blog/post/putting-it-all-together-part1/ Here it says 7 comments. But you only get to see one. You have to click into the discourse post to get more. This is due to Discourse's threading model. 6 of the comments were replying to the one on the blog post itself.
    - rectang 6y ago
      I see 7 comments when I go to that page. Dig Dgraph fix something in the last hour? Or is the site treating you differently from me because I'm completely unknown to it?
    - mrjn 6y ago
      Discourse prefers a single level threading model, until Reddit or HN. So, you can in fact see all the 7 comments there. Not sure why you only see one.
      - akvadrako 6y ago
        I also only see one - probably just a bug due to different browsers/adblockers.
KajMagnus 6y ago
> basically zero presence in the parts of the web I'm around What parts of the web are that, if I may ask? I think Discourse is popular in software and tech related organizations — I see it a lot on such websites.

supz_k 6y ago

Yep, commento is a great self-hosted alternative. There's also Isso[1] and utterances[2] (Github issues based) [1] - https://posativ.org/isso/ https://posativ.org/isso/ [2] - https://github.com/utterance/utterances https://github.com/utterance/utterances

mcorbin 6y ago

i'm the author of Commentator, a commenting system where comments are stored on any s3 compatible store (easier to manage than a DB or local storage): https://github.com/mcorbin/commentator https://github.com/mcorbin/commentator It's still WIP but it supports comments approval, has a rate limiter, a challenge system to avoid spammers... I already use it for my personal blog.

urtrs 6y ago

Remark42 is also good https://github.com/umputun/remark42 https://github.com/umputun/remark42

sambf 6y ago

I'm using Isso [0], it's simple, lightweight, and does the job. A demo is on their page. [0] https://posativ.org/isso/ https://posativ.org/isso/

andrewflnr 6y ago
That looks perfect.
dbrgn 6y ago
I've been using this for a few years already. Does it's job. I like it.

Doctor_Fegg 6y ago

Not self-hosted: One alternative I’ve seen a few times recently is to start your own subreddit. Post your articles to it, link to the Reddit thread at the bottom of each posting, and let the conversation take place over there.

Daho0n 6y ago
Eh, hosting on reddit isn't much better than Disqus.
- corobo 6y ago
  Worse even. It's in Reddit's interest to get the reader off your blog and into their app
titanomachy 6y ago
Reddit has crippled their mobile browsing experience to push people towards the app. I'd prefer not to force all readers to download another app.

StavrosK 6y ago

Commento is abandoned, they have a bug that prevents login and it's gone unfixed for years: https://gitlab.com/commento/commento/-/issues/174 https://gitlab.com/commento/commento/-/issues/174

prophesi 6y ago
Unfixed for 1 year, not years. I've got an instance of Commento running on two of my sites and haven't run into / heard of this issue on Firefox. Though I'm not using the Docker image. Maybe give better steps to reproduce the issue, as it seems to only be happening to one other person? It does seem like Commento's development has lost its momentum (last commit was 6 months ago). The author likely isn't getting more funding from Mozilla and is focusing on their primary money-maker, the cloud-hosted service.
- StavrosK 6y ago
  > Unfixed for 1 year, not years May 2019 is almost two years now. > Maybe give better steps to reproduce the issue, as it seems to only be happening to one other person? Or maybe we're the only ones who bothered using/reporting it. I don't really have any STR, they consist of "Install Commento, try to log in, you can't".

KajMagnus 6y ago

Talkyard Blog Comments, https://talkyard.io/blog-comments https://talkyard.io/blog-comments (I'm developing it. Open source: https://github.com/debiki/talkyard https://github.com/debiki/talkyard. Not yet so well documented — soon time to add more docs, ... as per this nice discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26002656 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26002656 )

darekkay 6y ago

My list should give you some ideas: https://darekkay.com/blog/static-site-comments/#self-hosted https://darekkay.com/blog/static-site-comments/#self-hosted

foxhop 6y ago

https://www.remarkbox.com https://www.remarkbox.com I'm the founder and in 2021, in the face of the Monopolistic take over of speach and allowing communities to self-moderate, I've made the service free! Reference: https://www.remarkbox.com/remarkbox-is-now-pay-what-you-can.html https://www.remarkbox.com/remarkbox-is-now-pay-what-you-can.... Worth reading the publicly released statement.

winrid 6y ago

I run one, and we support migrations from Commento - I already dropped the link once here, don't want to be too spammy :) I never understood Commento's SSO system. We went with HMAC instead.