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To all the naysayers, is there any other way to hold fox accountable for all the propaganda and division that they have down for that 5 years at least? And to h

To all the naysayers, is there any other way to hold fox accountable for all the propaganda and division that they have down for that 5 years at least? And to hold rupert murdoch accountable?

blablablerg 6y ago
And still are doing! It's disgusting how selective their reporting is.
glial 6y ago
Not just 5 years. They were lead cheerleaders for the 2003 Iraq War.
- stevesimmons 6y ago
  And Murdoch's media in UK were cheerleaders for Brexit, and in Australia for climate change denial. At least Rupert Murdoch's son James has split from the family media interests and spoken out: * https://www.ft.com/content/9eab68e1-7afb-4282-95fa-3149bd091efa https://www.ft.com/content/9eab68e1-7afb-4282-95fa-3149bd091... [paywall] * https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/15/media/james-murdoch-election-disinformation/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/15/media/james-murdoch-elect...
- refurb 6y ago
  So was the majority of both parties and most of the mass media.
- rufus_foreman 6y ago
  Almost all of the news media were cheerleaders for the Iraq War: "It’s been forgotten this was actually a business-wide consensus, which included the enthusiastic participation of a blue-state intelligentsia. The New Yorker of Remnick, who himself wrote a piece called “Making the Case,” was a source of many of the most ferocious pro-invasion pieces, including a pair written by current Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg, one of a number of WMD hawks who failed up after the war case fell apart. Other prominent Democrat voices like Ezra Klein, Jonathan Chait, and even quasi-skeptic Nick Kristof (who denounced war critics for calling Bush a liar) were on board, as a Full Metal Jacket character put it, “for the big win.” The Washington Post and New York Times were key editorial-page drivers of the conflict; MSNBC unhired Phil Donahue and Jesse Ventura over their war skepticism; CNN flooded the airwaves with generals and ex-Pentagon stoolies, and broadcast outlets ABC, CBS, NBC and PBS stacked the deck even worse: In a two-week period before the invasion, the networks had just one American guest out of 267 who questioned the war, according to Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting." - Matt Taibi, https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/iraq-war-media-fail-matt-taibbi-812230/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/iraq...
jacob2484 6y ago
Only if the same can be done to CNN & MSNBC with the leftwing propaganda and divisiveness.
- anemoiac 6y ago
  Perhaps this may come off sounding a little too “no true Scotsman”-y for HN, but I have to shake my head and chuckle quietly to myself whenever I hear about a “left wing” multi billion dollar corporation. Additionally, divisiveness is not inherently bad - or, at least, it’s often better than the alternative. The American Civil Rights Movement was extremely divisive, for example.
- fungiblecog 6y ago
  It would be funny if it wasn't so depressing the way that right-wing extreme selfishness is so often justified by trying to make a false equivalence with unselfish left-wing ideas. Wanting people to be less shit to each other - and to the rest of nature - is not the same as advocating for the right of the rich to shit on everyone else.
- treeman79 6y ago
  Cancel culture means only once view point is allowed. Anyone that disagrees is automatically attacked and given many horrible labels. Want to move the tax rate up or down? Your a racist if you pick wrong.
  - ihumanable 6y ago
    We want structural change with laws and government regulation! No, you can't have that, the market must decide, it's most efficient! Ok, then when people do things we don't like, we will boycott them since we can only use market based solutions. No, that's cancel culture! Hmm.... seems like these two ideas together is basically just a long way of saying that those with power should be immune from society at large.
    - google234123 6y ago
      Cancel culture is usually trying to get people fired or deplatformed.
txsoftwaredev 6y ago
CNN as well? Some CNN lies: 1. "When President Trump met with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe last November, the pair took part in a koi fish feeding ceremony. A video posted by CNN appeared to show Trump dumping his entire box of food into the koi pond unprompted. An unedited video revealed that Trump was simply following the lead of Abe, who emptied his box of food first." 2."CNN claimed that only Democratic members of Congress gathered to pray before the 2017 Congressional Baseball Game — the first game after House Majority Whip Steve Scalise was shot and nearly killed." 3. "After a May shooting at Santa Fe High School in Texas, CNN reporters immediately began claiming that there were 22 school shootings on the year. However, CNN wildly exaggerates the number of school shootings by using methodology that includes accidental firearm discharges on school property, domestic disputes, and other non-active shooter events." 4. "Multiple CNN reporters speculated about the whereabouts of Melania Trump after a scheduled kidney surgery and then denied responsibility for any conspiracy theories about the first lady. Media reporter Brian Stelter led his “Reliable Sources” newsletter on June 3rd with the headline “Melania M.I.A,” and insisted the first lady’s whereabouts were a “mystery” because she had not been seen in public since May 10." 5. "CNN fakes internet meme to smear alt-right. CNN told their viewers that this racist meme was going viral in alt-right circles. However it was revealed that the network actually created the image themselves in an attempt to smear Trump supporters as white supremacists. The internet did not exist on the internet at all." There is so much more fake news from CNN than these few examples.
- Craighead 6y ago
  This is such an obnoxiously bad take to draw a false parallel between CNN and Fox. Please go back to Parler or 8chan with this nonsense.
- SR2Z 6y ago
  There's a massive difference between "Trump dumped a box of fish food into a fish pond!" and "The election was rigged and the government of the most powerful nation on earth is illegitimate!" You KNOW that these two are totally incomparable. None of your examples are any better.
- isbadawi 6y ago
glial 6y ago
If someone had enough money, would it be possible to buy a controlling share in NewsCorp?
supertrope 6y ago
Cancel your cable TV subscription.
- ascagnel_ 6y ago
  Sadly, this is the most effective way. Fox News Channel is generally included in most basic cable packages, so unless you can find a cable package that only includes channels you'd receive with an antenna, part of your cable bill will go to FNC.

To all the naysayers, is there any other way to hold fox accountable for all the propaganda and division that they have down for that 5 years at least? And to hold rupert murdoch accountable?

blablablerg 6y ago

And still are doing! It's disgusting how selective their reporting is.

glial 6y ago

Not just 5 years. They were lead cheerleaders for the 2003 Iraq War.

stevesimmons 6y ago
And Murdoch's media in UK were cheerleaders for Brexit, and in Australia for climate change denial. At least Rupert Murdoch's son James has split from the family media interests and spoken out: * https://www.ft.com/content/9eab68e1-7afb-4282-95fa-3149bd091efa https://www.ft.com/content/9eab68e1-7afb-4282-95fa-3149bd091... [paywall] * https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/15/media/james-murdoch-election-disinformation/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/15/media/james-murdoch-elect...
refurb 6y ago
So was the majority of both parties and most of the mass media.
rufus_foreman 6y ago
Almost all of the news media were cheerleaders for the Iraq War: "It’s been forgotten this was actually a business-wide consensus, which included the enthusiastic participation of a blue-state intelligentsia. The New Yorker of Remnick, who himself wrote a piece called “Making the Case,” was a source of many of the most ferocious pro-invasion pieces, including a pair written by current Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg, one of a number of WMD hawks who failed up after the war case fell apart. Other prominent Democrat voices like Ezra Klein, Jonathan Chait, and even quasi-skeptic Nick Kristof (who denounced war critics for calling Bush a liar) were on board, as a Full Metal Jacket character put it, “for the big win.” The Washington Post and New York Times were key editorial-page drivers of the conflict; MSNBC unhired Phil Donahue and Jesse Ventura over their war skepticism; CNN flooded the airwaves with generals and ex-Pentagon stoolies, and broadcast outlets ABC, CBS, NBC and PBS stacked the deck even worse: In a two-week period before the invasion, the networks had just one American guest out of 267 who questioned the war, according to Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting." - Matt Taibi, https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/iraq-war-media-fail-matt-taibbi-812230/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/iraq...

jacob2484 6y ago

Only if the same can be done to CNN & MSNBC with the leftwing propaganda and divisiveness.

anemoiac 6y ago
Perhaps this may come off sounding a little too “no true Scotsman”-y for HN, but I have to shake my head and chuckle quietly to myself whenever I hear about a “left wing” multi billion dollar corporation. Additionally, divisiveness is not inherently bad - or, at least, it’s often better than the alternative. The American Civil Rights Movement was extremely divisive, for example.
fungiblecog 6y ago
It would be funny if it wasn't so depressing the way that right-wing extreme selfishness is so often justified by trying to make a false equivalence with unselfish left-wing ideas. Wanting people to be less shit to each other - and to the rest of nature - is not the same as advocating for the right of the rich to shit on everyone else.
treeman79 6y ago
Cancel culture means only once view point is allowed. Anyone that disagrees is automatically attacked and given many horrible labels. Want to move the tax rate up or down? Your a racist if you pick wrong.
- ihumanable 6y ago
  We want structural change with laws and government regulation! No, you can't have that, the market must decide, it's most efficient! Ok, then when people do things we don't like, we will boycott them since we can only use market based solutions. No, that's cancel culture! Hmm.... seems like these two ideas together is basically just a long way of saying that those with power should be immune from society at large.
  - google234123 6y ago
    Cancel culture is usually trying to get people fired or deplatformed.

txsoftwaredev 6y ago

CNN as well? Some CNN lies: 1. "When President Trump met with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe last November, the pair took part in a koi fish feeding ceremony. A video posted by CNN appeared to show Trump dumping his entire box of food into the koi pond unprompted. An unedited video revealed that Trump was simply following the lead of Abe, who emptied his box of food first." 2."CNN claimed that only Democratic members of Congress gathered to pray before the 2017 Congressional Baseball Game — the first game after House Majority Whip Steve Scalise was shot and nearly killed." 3. "After a May shooting at Santa Fe High School in Texas, CNN reporters immediately began claiming that there were 22 school shootings on the year. However, CNN wildly exaggerates the number of school shootings by using methodology that includes accidental firearm discharges on school property, domestic disputes, and other non-active shooter events." 4. "Multiple CNN reporters speculated about the whereabouts of Melania Trump after a scheduled kidney surgery and then denied responsibility for any conspiracy theories about the first lady. Media reporter Brian Stelter led his “Reliable Sources” newsletter on June 3rd with the headline “Melania M.I.A,” and insisted the first lady’s whereabouts were a “mystery” because she had not been seen in public since May 10." 5. "CNN fakes internet meme to smear alt-right. CNN told their viewers that this racist meme was going viral in alt-right circles. However it was revealed that the network actually created the image themselves in an attempt to smear Trump supporters as white supremacists. The internet did not exist on the internet at all." There is so much more fake news from CNN than these few examples.

Craighead 6y ago
This is such an obnoxiously bad take to draw a false parallel between CNN and Fox. Please go back to Parler or 8chan with this nonsense.
SR2Z 6y ago
There's a massive difference between "Trump dumped a box of fish food into a fish pond!" and "The election was rigged and the government of the most powerful nation on earth is illegitimate!" You KNOW that these two are totally incomparable. None of your examples are any better.
isbadawi 6y ago

glial 6y ago

If someone had enough money, would it be possible to buy a controlling share in NewsCorp?

supertrope 6y ago

Cancel your cable TV subscription.

ascagnel_ 6y ago
Sadly, this is the most effective way. Fox News Channel is generally included in most basic cable packages, so unless you can find a cable package that only includes channels you'd receive with an antenna, part of your cable bill will go to FNC.