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It took about 10 words to realize this was written by someone holding a short position. This is fine, but Wallstreetbets demands some sort of regulation?

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whatok 6y ago
> Initial Disclosure: This report represents our opinion, and we encourage every reader to do their own due diligence. Please see our full disclaimer at the bottom of the report. We have no position (short or long) in Clover Health because we think in this moment for public markets, it is more important for people to understand the role short sellers play in exposing fraud and corporate malfeasance. For more on that discussion, see our conclusion. For members of the media who wish to independently corroborate our work, please contact us for information on sources on condition that their anonymity is maintained unless they explicitly agree to go on-record.
ctvo 6y ago
If you would continue reading beyond 10 words you'd see this: > Initial Disclosure: This report represents our opinion, and we encourage every reader to do their own due diligence. Please see our full disclaimer at the bottom of the report. We have no position (short or long) in Clover Health because we think in this moment for public markets, it is more important for people to understand the role short sellers play in exposing fraud and corporate malfeasance. ...
- Jimmc414 6y ago
  You can keep downvoting me and that's fine. But Hindenburg Research is an entity that exists solely to short companies and simultaneously publish salacious reports on these companies. How obvious does it have to be for you? Just glance at hindenburgresearch.com
  - AlexandrB 6y ago
    But are they wrong in this case? They weren't wrong about Nikola.
    - zwily 6y ago
      Yeah but Nikola stock is shockingly going up. (Disclosure: I hold puts.)
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  - SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
    It's not really possible to have a productive discussion about a reflexive, unsubstantiated claim that the source article is lying.
  - hmate9 6y ago
    It doesn’t make them wrong.
  - finolex1 6y ago
    Being a short seller in itself does not mean Hindenburg's reports are likely false, anymore than say, a news agency that exists to publish investigative journalism. If anyone has more information about their past track record, that would be great.
  - itsoktocry 6y ago
    >That was the fastest downvote I have ever received. Because your comment is nonsensical. First of all, they claim no position in the stock. Even if you don't believe it, they did research on a company, decided the business looks bad. Do you expect them to be long the stock? Do you think they randomly chose this company to "bring down"? Where are all the people upset about situations where banks like Morgan Stanley, who have Tesla for a client and own huge portions of ARKK (which in turn owns many Tesla shares) put out ridiculous reports claiming Tesla Insurance is more valuable than Geico, Tesla "parts" is bigger than VW and Tesla autonomy is worth billions, in order to juice the stock upward? The bias is unbelievable.

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whatok 6y ago

> Initial Disclosure: This report represents our opinion, and we encourage every reader to do their own due diligence. Please see our full disclaimer at the bottom of the report. We have no position (short or long) in Clover Health because we think in this moment for public markets, it is more important for people to understand the role short sellers play in exposing fraud and corporate malfeasance. For more on that discussion, see our conclusion. For members of the media who wish to independently corroborate our work, please contact us for information on sources on condition that their anonymity is maintained unless they explicitly agree to go on-record.

ctvo 6y ago

If you would continue reading beyond 10 words you'd see this: > Initial Disclosure: This report represents our opinion, and we encourage every reader to do their own due diligence. Please see our full disclaimer at the bottom of the report. We have no position (short or long) in Clover Health because we think in this moment for public markets, it is more important for people to understand the role short sellers play in exposing fraud and corporate malfeasance. ...

Jimmc414 6y ago
You can keep downvoting me and that's fine. But Hindenburg Research is an entity that exists solely to short companies and simultaneously publish salacious reports on these companies. How obvious does it have to be for you? Just glance at hindenburgresearch.com
- AlexandrB 6y ago
  But are they wrong in this case? They weren't wrong about Nikola.
  - zwily 6y ago
    Yeah but Nikola stock is shockingly going up. (Disclosure: I hold puts.)
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- SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
  It's not really possible to have a productive discussion about a reflexive, unsubstantiated claim that the source article is lying.
- hmate9 6y ago
  It doesn’t make them wrong.
- finolex1 6y ago
  Being a short seller in itself does not mean Hindenburg's reports are likely false, anymore than say, a news agency that exists to publish investigative journalism. If anyone has more information about their past track record, that would be great.
- itsoktocry 6y ago
  >That was the fastest downvote I have ever received. Because your comment is nonsensical. First of all, they claim no position in the stock. Even if you don't believe it, they did research on a company, decided the business looks bad. Do you expect them to be long the stock? Do you think they randomly chose this company to "bring down"? Where are all the people upset about situations where banks like Morgan Stanley, who have Tesla for a client and own huge portions of ARKK (which in turn owns many Tesla shares) put out ridiculous reports claiming Tesla Insurance is more valuable than Geico, Tesla "parts" is bigger than VW and Tesla autonomy is worth billions, in order to juice the stock upward? The bias is unbelievable.