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The USB-IF standardized names (low speed, full speed, high speed, super speed) aren't that bad, the biggest problem is that they are not used nearly enough or c

by zokier 6y ago

The USB-IF standardized names (low speed, full speed, high speed, super speed) aren't that bad, the biggest problem is that they are not used nearly enough or consistently. Instead people use those those non-standard and ambiguous USB X.Y Gen Z labels, which is something USB-IF iirc explicitly recommends not to do.

Dylan16807 6y ago
Don't forget about "superspeed+". Which I thought they got rid of but Wikipedia says it still shows up some of the time, and it doesn't even mean a specific speed any more!
- zokier 6y ago
  Straight from the horse's mouth: > NOTE: SuperSpeed Plus, Enhanced SuperSpeed and SuperSpeed+ are defined in the USB specifications however these terms are not intended to be used in product names, messaging, packaging or any other consumer-facing content https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/usb_3_2_language_product_and_packaging_guidelines_final.pdf https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/usb_3_2_language_pro... same text also appears on USB 3.1 guidelines, so that hasn't changed. Also regarding SuperSpeed speed ratings, the recommendation is pretty unambiguous: > To avoid consumer confusion, USB-IF’s recommended nomenclature for consumers is “SuperSpeed USB” for 5Gbps products, “SuperSpeed USB 10Gbps” for 10Gbps productsand “SuperSpeed USB 20Gbps” for 20Gbps products
  - Dylan16807 6y ago
    Why were those terms created and disseminated at all? "SuperSpeed Plus", "Enhanced SuperSpeed", and "SuperSpeed+" have no reason to exist outside of a marketing context.
fredoralive 6y ago
The trouble is, the USB group should have got the memo 15 years when no one used whatever USB 2 was supposed to be called (high speed?), and instead just called it USB2. They should just formularise the three steps of USB 3 as 3/3.1/3.2, which is pretty clear. Of course the USB group gave us USB C, so we’re probably doomed.
molszanski 6y ago
Oh!! So there are even more names? Which is "full speed" and which is "super speed"?

by zokier 6y ago

Dylan16807 6y ago

Don't forget about "superspeed+". Which I thought they got rid of but Wikipedia says it still shows up some of the time, and it doesn't even mean a specific speed any more!

zokier 6y ago
Straight from the horse's mouth: > NOTE: SuperSpeed Plus, Enhanced SuperSpeed and SuperSpeed+ are defined in the USB specifications however these terms are not intended to be used in product names, messaging, packaging or any other consumer-facing content https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/usb_3_2_language_product_and_packaging_guidelines_final.pdf https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/usb_3_2_language_pro... same text also appears on USB 3.1 guidelines, so that hasn't changed. Also regarding SuperSpeed speed ratings, the recommendation is pretty unambiguous: > To avoid consumer confusion, USB-IF’s recommended nomenclature for consumers is “SuperSpeed USB” for 5Gbps products, “SuperSpeed USB 10Gbps” for 10Gbps productsand “SuperSpeed USB 20Gbps” for 20Gbps products
- Dylan16807 6y ago
  Why were those terms created and disseminated at all? "SuperSpeed Plus", "Enhanced SuperSpeed", and "SuperSpeed+" have no reason to exist outside of a marketing context.

fredoralive 6y ago

The trouble is, the USB group should have got the memo 15 years when no one used whatever USB 2 was supposed to be called (high speed?), and instead just called it USB2. They should just formularise the three steps of USB 3 as 3/3.1/3.2, which is pretty clear. Of course the USB group gave us USB C, so we’re probably doomed.

molszanski 6y ago

Oh!! So there are even more names? Which is "full speed" and which is "super speed"?