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MTG believes that Nancy Pelosi should be murdered. Half of the Republican caucus in the house, today, gave MTG a standing ovation. https://twitter.com/cam_jose

by cozuya 6y ago

MTG believes that Nancy Pelosi should be murdered. Half of the Republican caucus in the house, today, gave MTG a standing ovation. https://twitter.com/cam_joseph/status/1357116355988910080 https://twitter.com/cam_joseph/status/1357116355988910080 More Republican (citizens) have a favorable opinion of MTG than an unfavorable one. https://twitter.com/ArgoJournal/status/1356995117396201474 https://twitter.com/ArgoJournal/status/1356995117396201474 MTG is the Republican party. Have fun with that, and especially, have fun defending that.

Tycho 6y ago
They applauded her after she apologized for promoting QAnon. It’s incredible how rather than indulge in a microsecond of self reflection, people like you just latch onto the most extreme caricature of your opponents that your media vendors can muster, ignoring the substantive reality.
- cozuya 6y ago
  Source? Also, looks like you might have missed this one. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26021189 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26021189
  - cozuya 6y ago
    So no source then?
    - Tycho 6y ago
      The source was the Vice article linked in the Twitter thread you posted. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/bvxbn3/republicans-wont-punish-qanon-congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/b... I don’t want to keep spending time on this. My position is that QAnon is a fringe internet phenomenon that is a total unknown to most people. Of the people who do have some knowledge of it, few take it seriously. A few crazies do, sure. But its somber elevation to grave significance by the liberal media is totally ridiculous (and gave it more attention than it ever would have gotten otherwise).
      - cozuya 6y ago
        Did a few crazies invade the capitol in attempt to hang the Vice President, causing 5 deaths? Did a few crazies elect MTG, who advocates for murdering Nancy Pelosi, and then refuses to censor her/remove her from commitees? You can minimize this stuff all you want and deflect blame to librul media, but YOUR PARTY (that you have constantly defended in these threads) is and holds these positions. The Republican party is the party of murdering their political foes, even ones in their own party. The Republican party is the party of Barack Obama is a Muslim (something MTG has said on video and refuses to retract). Just own it.
        cozuya 6y ago
        Weird that you didn't disavow hanging Mike Pence. Strange!
        Tycho 6y ago
        Your game of loose association, where just because some individual made some outlandish remarks in the past, or they “liked” something objectionable on social media, then anyone who voted for them or share a political party with them or didn’t disavow them to your satisfaction must therefore also agree with those things and substantively back them as a matter of policy - is facile. Btw, dismissing things as “whataboutism” isn’t an effective argument, its just an admission of hypocrisy.
        cozuya 6y ago
        Why even bother clicking reply and typing out words, when you don't actually reply to what was said? What a waste of your time.
- TylerE 6y ago
  If she did it IN PUBLIC instead of allegedly doing so behind closed doors, maybe I'd think she was only 99% human garbage.
rayiner 6y ago
> MTG believes that Nancy Pelosi should be murdered Oh please. This sort of rhetoric, while distasteful, is such a common sort of exaggeration that there’s a Supreme Court case on it: https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/707/watts-v-united-states https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/707/watts-v-uni... > Robert Watts, attended an anti-war rally at the Washington Monument.... Watts allegedly said: “I am not going. If they ever make me carry a rifle the first man I want to get in my sights is L.B.J.” > The Court agreed with Watts’s counsel’s characterization of Watts’s speech as “a kind of very crude offensive method of stating a political opposition to the President” that did not qualify as a true threat. The phrase “deserves a bullet to the head” or the like is a (juvenile and violent, but common) figure of speech. It’s invariably used figuratively not literally.
- tptacek 6y ago
  That's a little hard to square with the mob that descended on the Capitol, which included people who apparently seriously hoped to kill politicians. We all get that "I'm going to kill him!" is usually just an expletive. It's not always, though. MTG seems like a strange hill to die on. I assume you pretty much share the contempt everyone else has for her.
  - rayiner 6y ago
    What does the mob have to do with MTG’s liking a violent comment about Pelosi a year earlier? I think MTG is a nut and should go the way of Steve King. But someone being a bigot and a nut and a conspiracy theorist isn’t an excuse for accusing them of sincerely wanting to murder people for using clearly hyperbolic rhetoric.
    - idlewords 6y ago
      Such hyperbolic accusations aren't limited to MTG; see the effort to accuse Lauren Boebert of endangering her colleagues by allegedly carrying weapons onto the House floor (open carry is part of her schtick) or allegedly endangering the life of the Speaker of the House by "tweeting her location" (in reference to a tweet that said that the Speaker was being evacuated). Reframing controversial political disagreements as uncontroversial issues of personal safety is a cancel culture trope that has worked well elsewhere and now being imported into our political life. Hence the ongoing theater with metal detectors and armed military guards, as well as the baseless accusations that legislators pose some physical risk to their colleagues and must therefore be expelled.

by cozuya 6y ago

Tycho 6y ago

They applauded her after she apologized for promoting QAnon. It’s incredible how rather than indulge in a microsecond of self reflection, people like you just latch onto the most extreme caricature of your opponents that your media vendors can muster, ignoring the substantive reality.

cozuya 6y ago
Source? Also, looks like you might have missed this one. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26021189 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26021189
- cozuya 6y ago
  So no source then?
  - Tycho 6y ago
    The source was the Vice article linked in the Twitter thread you posted. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/bvxbn3/republicans-wont-punish-qanon-congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/b... I don’t want to keep spending time on this. My position is that QAnon is a fringe internet phenomenon that is a total unknown to most people. Of the people who do have some knowledge of it, few take it seriously. A few crazies do, sure. But its somber elevation to grave significance by the liberal media is totally ridiculous (and gave it more attention than it ever would have gotten otherwise).
    - cozuya 6y ago
      Did a few crazies invade the capitol in attempt to hang the Vice President, causing 5 deaths? Did a few crazies elect MTG, who advocates for murdering Nancy Pelosi, and then refuses to censor her/remove her from commitees? You can minimize this stuff all you want and deflect blame to librul media, but YOUR PARTY (that you have constantly defended in these threads) is and holds these positions. The Republican party is the party of murdering their political foes, even ones in their own party. The Republican party is the party of Barack Obama is a Muslim (something MTG has said on video and refuses to retract). Just own it.
      - cozuya 6y ago
        Weird that you didn't disavow hanging Mike Pence. Strange!
      - Tycho 6y ago
        Your game of loose association, where just because some individual made some outlandish remarks in the past, or they “liked” something objectionable on social media, then anyone who voted for them or share a political party with them or didn’t disavow them to your satisfaction must therefore also agree with those things and substantively back them as a matter of policy - is facile. Btw, dismissing things as “whataboutism” isn’t an effective argument, its just an admission of hypocrisy.
        cozuya 6y ago
        Why even bother clicking reply and typing out words, when you don't actually reply to what was said? What a waste of your time.
TylerE 6y ago
If she did it IN PUBLIC instead of allegedly doing so behind closed doors, maybe I'd think she was only 99% human garbage.

rayiner 6y ago

> MTG believes that Nancy Pelosi should be murdered Oh please. This sort of rhetoric, while distasteful, is such a common sort of exaggeration that there’s a Supreme Court case on it: https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/707/watts-v-united-states https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/707/watts-v-uni... > Robert Watts, attended an anti-war rally at the Washington Monument.... Watts allegedly said: “I am not going. If they ever make me carry a rifle the first man I want to get in my sights is L.B.J.” > The Court agreed with Watts’s counsel’s characterization of Watts’s speech as “a kind of very crude offensive method of stating a political opposition to the President” that did not qualify as a true threat. The phrase “deserves a bullet to the head” or the like is a (juvenile and violent, but common) figure of speech. It’s invariably used figuratively not literally.

tptacek 6y ago
That's a little hard to square with the mob that descended on the Capitol, which included people who apparently seriously hoped to kill politicians. We all get that "I'm going to kill him!" is usually just an expletive. It's not always, though. MTG seems like a strange hill to die on. I assume you pretty much share the contempt everyone else has for her.
- rayiner 6y ago
  What does the mob have to do with MTG’s liking a violent comment about Pelosi a year earlier? I think MTG is a nut and should go the way of Steve King. But someone being a bigot and a nut and a conspiracy theorist isn’t an excuse for accusing them of sincerely wanting to murder people for using clearly hyperbolic rhetoric.
  - idlewords 6y ago
    Such hyperbolic accusations aren't limited to MTG; see the effort to accuse Lauren Boebert of endangering her colleagues by allegedly carrying weapons onto the House floor (open carry is part of her schtick) or allegedly endangering the life of the Speaker of the House by "tweeting her location" (in reference to a tweet that said that the Speaker was being evacuated). Reframing controversial political disagreements as uncontroversial issues of personal safety is a cancel culture trope that has worked well elsewhere and now being imported into our political life. Hence the ongoing theater with metal detectors and armed military guards, as well as the baseless accusations that legislators pose some physical risk to their colleagues and must therefore be expelled.