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Not surprising, when your first and foremost duty as the headhoncho should be doing what you can to keep your site online. It's been almost a month that the si

Not surprising, when your first and foremost duty as the headhoncho should be doing what you can to keep your site online. It's been almost a month that the site has been down for now. Yes, an outage should be expected when you get deplatformed at a network level... however they could not put up anything more than a status page in this time.

rektide 6y ago
Rebekah Mercer is done being embarrassed by you! (Reminder: she's the board that fired him.)
- redwood 6y ago
  Do you realize who she is? If she's embarrassed by anything it's that he hasn't brought the site back to glory yet
  - minsc__and__boo 6y ago
    I'm convinced that Parler was a data grab. They ran the numbers and figured it would be cheaper to run a social media platform to attract their target constituents rather than try to scrape it (like they did with Cambridge Analytica) or attempt to buy it. Hence the ID requirements.
    - Applejinx 6y ago
      No, it was ideological, but also drew the attention and support of state actors not from THIS country. Like with Cambridge Analytica, in fact. The data grab aspect serves as a means of control and access into a LOT of American citizens who've given up their identities in order to serve an ideological purpose. They might not have been clear on exactly who was looking to overthrow the USA, but by the time they signed on they'd decided for their own reasons that was what they wanted, so it's not as much a data grab as a pipeline for terrorism. As much as the data is valuable, control of the people is more valuable.
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aahortwwy 6y ago
I can think of plenty of SV darlings that would take far longer than a month to recover from such an event. That said, given the content Parler was hosting they really should've planned for something like this, so it makes sense to terminate the CEO.
- rodgerd 6y ago
  Given that he initially represented that they had no real hard dependencies on AWS, I assume that the Mercers quickly lost patience when it became clear that they were locked into AWS, with no contingency.
  - chubs 6y ago
    Maybe the problem is that no other capable provider was willing to take them in?
    - rodgerd 6y ago
      In which case you'd need to moderate your content to match your providers' T&Cs, or you'd need to moderate your ambitions to match your choice of providers. But telling your owner that you can meet their desire to allow people to breach T&Cs, and that you can scale to the size of their ambitions, means you're either lying or don't understand the problem that you're solving.
  - edbob 6y ago
    It sounds like they had prepared to move from AWS to another mega-provider like GCP or Azure. The site is too large (and probably poorly optimized) to just spin up a few DO droplets.
    - dilyevsky 6y ago
      Going with another major scale cloud provider was definitely poor planning there
      - 6y ago
paulpauper 6y ago
I don't see it being offline as problem for now as long as it is getting media coverage and people are aware it exists.
tootie 6y ago
Not just the technical issues, he took no steps to prevent deplatforming. I'm reading between the lines but I'm assuming Mercer et al didn't actually care about free speech as much as they wanted a place to spread Trumpism.
Qub3d 6y ago
Oh, don't worry, they also managed to get the nginx default page up on their api domain: https://api.speak-free.com/ https://api.speak-free.com/ Really great technical work all around.
- airstrike 6y ago
  Good Lord.. I'm just a hobbyist and even I can do better than that
raverbashing 6y ago
Or maybe with the recent election results they're not even trying hard to get it back on, I guess
rtkwe 6y ago
From some of the reports it sounds like they'd outsourced tons of their infrastructure and account creation steps to SaaS groups so coming back means doing some major rewrites probably. Also having been on AWs they're probably scrambling to rewrite to remove all the AWS service hooks and setup new stacks.
jariel 6y ago
Imagine how many little SaaS services they depend on dumped them for spite. I don't care about Parler, but this is getting bad. Voted for that angry guy? Sorry, you're off my Contact Management platform and your business is frozen, while you try to recoup from being booted from those 12 other services. I think some regulation is probably in need.

rektide 6y ago

Rebekah Mercer is done being embarrassed by you! (Reminder: she's the board that fired him.)

redwood 6y ago
Do you realize who she is? If she's embarrassed by anything it's that he hasn't brought the site back to glory yet
- minsc__and__boo 6y ago
  I'm convinced that Parler was a data grab. They ran the numbers and figured it would be cheaper to run a social media platform to attract their target constituents rather than try to scrape it (like they did with Cambridge Analytica) or attempt to buy it. Hence the ID requirements.
  - Applejinx 6y ago
    No, it was ideological, but also drew the attention and support of state actors not from THIS country. Like with Cambridge Analytica, in fact. The data grab aspect serves as a means of control and access into a LOT of American citizens who've given up their identities in order to serve an ideological purpose. They might not have been clear on exactly who was looking to overthrow the USA, but by the time they signed on they'd decided for their own reasons that was what they wanted, so it's not as much a data grab as a pipeline for terrorism. As much as the data is valuable, control of the people is more valuable.
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aahortwwy 6y ago

I can think of plenty of SV darlings that would take far longer than a month to recover from such an event. That said, given the content Parler was hosting they really should've planned for something like this, so it makes sense to terminate the CEO.

rodgerd 6y ago
Given that he initially represented that they had no real hard dependencies on AWS, I assume that the Mercers quickly lost patience when it became clear that they were locked into AWS, with no contingency.
- chubs 6y ago
  Maybe the problem is that no other capable provider was willing to take them in?
  - rodgerd 6y ago
    In which case you'd need to moderate your content to match your providers' T&Cs, or you'd need to moderate your ambitions to match your choice of providers. But telling your owner that you can meet their desire to allow people to breach T&Cs, and that you can scale to the size of their ambitions, means you're either lying or don't understand the problem that you're solving.
- edbob 6y ago
  It sounds like they had prepared to move from AWS to another mega-provider like GCP or Azure. The site is too large (and probably poorly optimized) to just spin up a few DO droplets.
  - dilyevsky 6y ago
    Going with another major scale cloud provider was definitely poor planning there
    - 6y ago

paulpauper 6y ago

I don't see it being offline as problem for now as long as it is getting media coverage and people are aware it exists.

tootie 6y ago

Not just the technical issues, he took no steps to prevent deplatforming. I'm reading between the lines but I'm assuming Mercer et al didn't actually care about free speech as much as they wanted a place to spread Trumpism.

Qub3d 6y ago

Oh, don't worry, they also managed to get the nginx default page up on their api domain: https://api.speak-free.com/ https://api.speak-free.com/ Really great technical work all around.

airstrike 6y ago
Good Lord.. I'm just a hobbyist and even I can do better than that

raverbashing 6y ago

Or maybe with the recent election results they're not even trying hard to get it back on, I guess

rtkwe 6y ago

From some of the reports it sounds like they'd outsourced tons of their infrastructure and account creation steps to SaaS groups so coming back means doing some major rewrites probably. Also having been on AWs they're probably scrambling to rewrite to remove all the AWS service hooks and setup new stacks.

jariel 6y ago

Imagine how many little SaaS services they depend on dumped them for spite. I don't care about Parler, but this is getting bad. Voted for that angry guy? Sorry, you're off my Contact Management platform and your business is frozen, while you try to recoup from being booted from those 12 other services. I think some regulation is probably in need.