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...so, if Theseus wanted a pair of headphones, chances are he'd spring for HD650s? In addition to Sennheisers, I've had good experience with AKG spare parts av

by lb1lf 6y ago

...so, if Theseus wanted a pair of headphones, chances are he'd spring for HD650s? In addition to Sennheisers, I've had good experience with AKG spare parts availability, too.

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adkaplan 6y ago
Also had a pair of headphones for 10 years, Sony MDR 7506. I've replaced the pads several times. I think a lot of good corded headphones will last forever as long as you don't crush them in a backpack.
- jasomill 6y ago
  MDR-V6 here, 20+ years, several pad replacements and several (mostly more expensive) headphones later, still my daily driver. To be fair, I also have a pair of AirPods Pro (not Max), which I only use on-the-go and for (mostly work-related) phone calls.
- larrykubin 6y ago
  I've used these for over a decade as well, still my favorite headphones.
trasz 6y ago
The best spare part for AKGs are the pads from Bayerdynamics, which fit K240 just fine and make them much more comfortable.
Dylan16807 6y ago
Nah, that's like a ship where you only replace the sails and rope.
- lmilcin 6y ago
  As an owner of sailing license (but no yacht) I can attest that there exist no ship where you only replace sails and rope. Ships of any kind even in best shape require stuff to be repaired, replaced or painted ALL the time. Especially if you want to enjoy it for a long time and not deteriorate after couple of years.
  - helmholtz 6y ago
    Er, that's his point. That unlike your sailing boats, good headphones don't really need replacement of critical parts (drivers), but auxiliary and easily-replaceable stuff like earcups and cables.
    - lb1lf 6y ago
      -Incidentally, my curiosity got the better of me today and I rang up the AKG distributor to inquire about a spare driver for my 1990s vintage K240 cans. 'Sure can do, but if you're willing to shell out another $11, we'll sell you a pair of drivers, wrapped in a headphone-shaped box - it even comes with a cable, ready to plug in!' So, I guess AKG are like any other brand - after market is considered 'free money' and an invitation to fleece the customer... (Though in fairness, for such a cheap-ish pair of headphones as the K240, the logistics of even keeping a spare inventory probably makes AKG lose money on selling me a new driver, even at the $70-ish price point I was quoted for a driver which goes into an $80 pair of headphones.)
      - lmilcin 6y ago
        I see it in a different way. $11 is a bargain to have support rep pick up the phone and bother to send you and individually prepared package. For phones that have been out of production for years. Most companies don't bother keeping spare parts these days and if you, for some unknown reason, want to maintain your cheapish vintage cans, you should be AMAZED they still keep them in stock. Because they are definitely not making any money on it.
        Dylan16807 6y ago
astrange 6y ago
Beyerdynamic headphones are not actually that good, so I'd hope he bought something new instead. Beyer is the kind of thing nascent audiophiles liked about 15 years ago because they sounded very detailed, but people are better at measuring now, there are newer competitors like planar magnetics (eg Hifiman), and if you compare them now it's obvious that the detail is fake. It's an artifact called sibilance that just happens to sound good, like vacuum tube distortion.
- lmilcin 6y ago
  My 19-year old Beyerdynamic DT 990 PRO are currently powered with Topping D50 DAC and JDS Labs Atom for headphone amp. I had some friends come in with newer headphones to compare (one with Audeze) and their amps and I was not impressed. It may be that I am just so used to my phones. Now, I also own other phones. I currently own four pairs of Bose headphones. One (SoundSport) for running, and three QuietComfort which I bought as new generations were produced. These I used when I travel because DT 990s are 250 Ohm and require a bit of stationary hardware to work. I also have one pair of Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO which I bought more recently and use when I need to isolate from environment for some reason. None of these other headphones are as good as DT 990s IMO.
  - klodolph 6y ago
    > None of these other headphones are as good as DT 990s IMO. Not really surprised about this, I have never been particularly impressed by Bose except for their noise canceling.
  - astrange 6y ago
    For reference I have a pair of DT-880 (sold as 250ohm but turned out to be 600) and Hifiman Sundara, both about the same price. DT-880 is certainly light and comfortable but it's kind of bright and I've heard the other models are less neutral than that. It also sounds quite detailed in the treble range, but if you listen to something like Sundara you realize the detail doesn't actually exist and it's more like a sharpening filter. Sundara also has replaceable audio cables and of course it's easier to drive.
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lmilcin 6y ago
If I was Theseus I would buy something that does not require separate amp (need to preserve batteries on yacht) and fares better in damp, salty conditions (I have delrin flute for that purpose, though everybody begs me to leave it at home).

by lb1lf 6y ago

...so, if Theseus wanted a pair of headphones, chances are he'd spring for HD650s? In addition to Sennheisers, I've had good experience with AKG spare parts availability, too.

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adkaplan 6y ago

Also had a pair of headphones for 10 years, Sony MDR 7506. I've replaced the pads several times. I think a lot of good corded headphones will last forever as long as you don't crush them in a backpack.

jasomill 6y ago
MDR-V6 here, 20+ years, several pad replacements and several (mostly more expensive) headphones later, still my daily driver. To be fair, I also have a pair of AirPods Pro (not Max), which I only use on-the-go and for (mostly work-related) phone calls.
larrykubin 6y ago
I've used these for over a decade as well, still my favorite headphones.

trasz 6y ago

The best spare part for AKGs are the pads from Bayerdynamics, which fit K240 just fine and make them much more comfortable.

Dylan16807 6y ago

Nah, that's like a ship where you only replace the sails and rope.

lmilcin 6y ago
As an owner of sailing license (but no yacht) I can attest that there exist no ship where you only replace sails and rope. Ships of any kind even in best shape require stuff to be repaired, replaced or painted ALL the time. Especially if you want to enjoy it for a long time and not deteriorate after couple of years.
- helmholtz 6y ago
  Er, that's his point. That unlike your sailing boats, good headphones don't really need replacement of critical parts (drivers), but auxiliary and easily-replaceable stuff like earcups and cables.
  - lb1lf 6y ago
    -Incidentally, my curiosity got the better of me today and I rang up the AKG distributor to inquire about a spare driver for my 1990s vintage K240 cans. 'Sure can do, but if you're willing to shell out another $11, we'll sell you a pair of drivers, wrapped in a headphone-shaped box - it even comes with a cable, ready to plug in!' So, I guess AKG are like any other brand - after market is considered 'free money' and an invitation to fleece the customer... (Though in fairness, for such a cheap-ish pair of headphones as the K240, the logistics of even keeping a spare inventory probably makes AKG lose money on selling me a new driver, even at the $70-ish price point I was quoted for a driver which goes into an $80 pair of headphones.)
    - lmilcin 6y ago
      I see it in a different way. $11 is a bargain to have support rep pick up the phone and bother to send you and individually prepared package. For phones that have been out of production for years. Most companies don't bother keeping spare parts these days and if you, for some unknown reason, want to maintain your cheapish vintage cans, you should be AMAZED they still keep them in stock. Because they are definitely not making any money on it.
      - Dylan16807 6y ago

astrange 6y ago

Beyerdynamic headphones are not actually that good, so I'd hope he bought something new instead. Beyer is the kind of thing nascent audiophiles liked about 15 years ago because they sounded very detailed, but people are better at measuring now, there are newer competitors like planar magnetics (eg Hifiman), and if you compare them now it's obvious that the detail is fake. It's an artifact called sibilance that just happens to sound good, like vacuum tube distortion.

lmilcin 6y ago
My 19-year old Beyerdynamic DT 990 PRO are currently powered with Topping D50 DAC and JDS Labs Atom for headphone amp. I had some friends come in with newer headphones to compare (one with Audeze) and their amps and I was not impressed. It may be that I am just so used to my phones. Now, I also own other phones. I currently own four pairs of Bose headphones. One (SoundSport) for running, and three QuietComfort which I bought as new generations were produced. These I used when I travel because DT 990s are 250 Ohm and require a bit of stationary hardware to work. I also have one pair of Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO which I bought more recently and use when I need to isolate from environment for some reason. None of these other headphones are as good as DT 990s IMO.
- klodolph 6y ago
  > None of these other headphones are as good as DT 990s IMO. Not really surprised about this, I have never been particularly impressed by Bose except for their noise canceling.
- astrange 6y ago
  For reference I have a pair of DT-880 (sold as 250ohm but turned out to be 600) and Hifiman Sundara, both about the same price. DT-880 is certainly light and comfortable but it's kind of bright and I've heard the other models are less neutral than that. It also sounds quite detailed in the treble range, but if you listen to something like Sundara you realize the detail doesn't actually exist and it's more like a sharpening filter. Sundara also has replaceable audio cables and of course it's easier to drive.
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lmilcin 6y ago

If I was Theseus I would buy something that does not require separate amp (need to preserve batteries on yacht) and fares better in damp, salty conditions (I have delrin flute for that purpose, though everybody begs me to leave it at home).