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Sorry... must... resist... can't! Moore's law has nothing to do with speed, only transistor count in the same space. While the speed increases are impressive,

Sorry... must... resist... can't! Moore's law has nothing to do with speed, only transistor count in the same space. While the speed increases are impressive, they're still picking off the low hanging fruit, as people haven't fully figured out how to optimize for the space yet. Kal-El will reportedly be using 40nm transistors, compared to the 22nm process Intel is able to do. Which means there's more room for the amazing in the arena. :)

superppl 15y ago
Intel is still in the mobile game? Sorry this is kind of news to me, I haven't been keeping up. I wonder if they would use Android or MeeGo...
- wtracy 15y ago
  Meego was originally a joint effort between Intel and Nokia.
  - Steko 15y ago
    And since Nokia's bailed it wouldn't really shock the world if Intel eventually gave up on Meego too.
    - superppl 15y ago
      There was a fair amount of community involvement and some other companies. Intel and Nokia were the major players here. Also Nokia is supposed to release a Meego phone; they said that they will be using Windows mobile to replace Symbian in low and middle tier devices, and they haven't really commented on upper tier. To be honest, I probably won't be buying a Meego phone from Nokia if they ship one. My N900 is fun, but I feel it doesn't get enough attention from them. Obviously, the biggest factor for Meego's success is if it can get any real attention from the media and consumers.
nextparadigms 15y ago
Intel won't have an Atom at 22nm until late 2013. By then Tegra 5 should be out, which who knows with how many Cortex A15 cores, at 28 nm. In 2014, ARM chip makers will move to 20 nm. Intel's advantage is only of about 1 processing node generation, but that's not even for Atom right now. It's only for their highest end chips. Current Atom is at 45 nm, and it will move to 32nm next year, when ARM chips will be at 28nm. But this doesn't even matter anyway. Even if Intel was 2 processing nodes ahead, ARM would still be more efficient.
- sitkack 15y ago
  Intel will stop making bricks (metaphor) and skip 28nm and go directly to 20nm for Atom. It is their only hope to get into mobile, even then it will be a weak value prop as the entire mobile market will be on an ARM ISA. Even though the whole dev chain is slightly more flexible to an ISA change, Intel will still be slighty x86ed out of the market only they will be on the other side of the fence this time. Intel won't run on the phones, but they might, if they play their cards right run on tablets and netbooks. It really does suck to be the 900 Lb gorilla.
- nl 15y ago
  Actually, Intel is moving Atom to 14nm (!) in 2014: http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/intel-14nm-atom-chip-in-2014-20110518/ http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/intel-14nm-atom-chip-in-2... ARM chips are only (notably) more efficient when they slower. If you compare like vs like it's not as simple. Eg, 2 GHz ARM A9's are roughly more as powerful as a 1.8 GHz Atom, and have similar power budgets (leaving aside Intel's pathetic chipset & graphics support for now)

superppl 15y ago

Intel is still in the mobile game? Sorry this is kind of news to me, I haven't been keeping up. I wonder if they would use Android or MeeGo...

wtracy 15y ago
Meego was originally a joint effort between Intel and Nokia.
- Steko 15y ago
  And since Nokia's bailed it wouldn't really shock the world if Intel eventually gave up on Meego too.
  - superppl 15y ago
    There was a fair amount of community involvement and some other companies. Intel and Nokia were the major players here. Also Nokia is supposed to release a Meego phone; they said that they will be using Windows mobile to replace Symbian in low and middle tier devices, and they haven't really commented on upper tier. To be honest, I probably won't be buying a Meego phone from Nokia if they ship one. My N900 is fun, but I feel it doesn't get enough attention from them. Obviously, the biggest factor for Meego's success is if it can get any real attention from the media and consumers.

nextparadigms 15y ago

Intel won't have an Atom at 22nm until late 2013. By then Tegra 5 should be out, which who knows with how many Cortex A15 cores, at 28 nm. In 2014, ARM chip makers will move to 20 nm. Intel's advantage is only of about 1 processing node generation, but that's not even for Atom right now. It's only for their highest end chips. Current Atom is at 45 nm, and it will move to 32nm next year, when ARM chips will be at 28nm. But this doesn't even matter anyway. Even if Intel was 2 processing nodes ahead, ARM would still be more efficient.

sitkack 15y ago
Intel will stop making bricks (metaphor) and skip 28nm and go directly to 20nm for Atom. It is their only hope to get into mobile, even then it will be a weak value prop as the entire mobile market will be on an ARM ISA. Even though the whole dev chain is slightly more flexible to an ISA change, Intel will still be slighty x86ed out of the market only they will be on the other side of the fence this time. Intel won't run on the phones, but they might, if they play their cards right run on tablets and netbooks. It really does suck to be the 900 Lb gorilla.
nl 15y ago
Actually, Intel is moving Atom to 14nm (!) in 2014: http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/intel-14nm-atom-chip-in-2014-20110518/ http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/intel-14nm-atom-chip-in-2... ARM chips are only (notably) more efficient when they slower. If you compare like vs like it's not as simple. Eg, 2 GHz ARM A9's are roughly more as powerful as a 1.8 GHz Atom, and have similar power budgets (leaving aside Intel's pathetic chipset & graphics support for now)