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Which is a surprise to me because I don’t really consider the jetbrain products to be “performant”. They run fine, sure, but take a long time to start up or ope

Which is a surprise to me because I don’t really consider the jetbrain products to be “performant”. They run fine, sure, but take a long time to start up or open a project, and can get sluggish if left open for awhile.

judge2020 6y ago
It can take long on an old system, but that doesn't matter much [to me] when the IDE works fast throughout the day even when periodically opening and closing projects.
- bulenkov 6y ago
  IntelliJ start up time is much better now. Take a look on IntelliJ CE (ported to Apple Silicon) vs VS Code (under Rosetta 2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erg0Dz0MXww https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erg0Dz0MXww Of course this is unfair comparison, but you can see that the start up isn't slow.
  - kaszanka 6y ago
    That copy of VS Code seems to be starting very slowly, even taking the emulation into account. Lots of extensions, maybe? For reference, it starts in around 3 seconds on my 2013ish laptop. (actually, more like 2014 - Haswell i7)
  - GrayShade 6y ago
    That's indeed not a fair comparison. Mozilla reported up to 2x faster performance and 2.5x faster startup time on the M1 port.
jki275 6y ago
JetBrains IDEs are quite heavy in my experience. I like their capabilities (pycharms at least), but they do come at a cost.
oxfordmale 6y ago
My MacBook Pro 2019 model is about to take off if I use both DataGrip and PyCharm at the same time.
- deergomoo 6y ago
  To be fair, a stern glance is usually enough to get a 2019 MacBook hot enough to cook your breakfast