5 ms·

Wow, these are heroic efforts that show a tremendous dedication to achieving acceptable performance and rendering.

ed25519FUUU 6y ago
Which is a surprise to me because I don’t really consider the jetbrain products to be “performant”. They run fine, sure, but take a long time to start up or open a project, and can get sluggish if left open for awhile.
- judge2020 6y ago
  It can take long on an old system, but that doesn't matter much [to me] when the IDE works fast throughout the day even when periodically opening and closing projects.
  - bulenkov 6y ago
    IntelliJ start up time is much better now. Take a look on IntelliJ CE (ported to Apple Silicon) vs VS Code (under Rosetta 2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erg0Dz0MXww https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erg0Dz0MXww Of course this is unfair comparison, but you can see that the start up isn't slow.
    - kaszanka 6y ago
      That copy of VS Code seems to be starting very slowly, even taking the emulation into account. Lots of extensions, maybe? For reference, it starts in around 3 seconds on my 2013ish laptop. (actually, more like 2014 - Haswell i7)
    - GrayShade 6y ago
      That's indeed not a fair comparison. Mozilla reported up to 2x faster performance and 2.5x faster startup time on the M1 port.
- jki275 6y ago
  JetBrains IDEs are quite heavy in my experience. I like their capabilities (pycharms at least), but they do come at a cost.
- oxfordmale 6y ago
  My MacBook Pro 2019 model is about to take off if I use both DataGrip and PyCharm at the same time.
  - deergomoo 6y ago
    To be fair, a stern glance is usually enough to get a 2019 MacBook hot enough to cook your breakfast
temp667 6y ago
Jetbrain stuff has always been slow - until I got an AMD 5600 (ram at 3200). For whatever reason, this combo of chip and updates to their software maybe (I turn off a lot of the add ins) - I've stopped being annoyed at the speed. It's "fast enough".
- mark_l_watson 6y ago
  I don’t disagree with you, their IDEs have been full featured but a little slow. Suggestion, if I may: remove all plugins unless you really need them. That changes on Apple M1 Silicon. PyCharm and IntelliJ native are very fast, as is Apple’s XCode. Life is sweet.

Which is a surprise to me because I don’t really consider the jetbrain products to be “performant”. They run fine, sure, but take a long time to start up or open a project, and can get sluggish if left open for awhile.

judge2020 6y ago
It can take long on an old system, but that doesn't matter much [to me] when the IDE works fast throughout the day even when periodically opening and closing projects.
- bulenkov 6y ago
  IntelliJ start up time is much better now. Take a look on IntelliJ CE (ported to Apple Silicon) vs VS Code (under Rosetta 2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erg0Dz0MXww https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erg0Dz0MXww Of course this is unfair comparison, but you can see that the start up isn't slow.
  - kaszanka 6y ago
    That copy of VS Code seems to be starting very slowly, even taking the emulation into account. Lots of extensions, maybe? For reference, it starts in around 3 seconds on my 2013ish laptop. (actually, more like 2014 - Haswell i7)
  - GrayShade 6y ago
    That's indeed not a fair comparison. Mozilla reported up to 2x faster performance and 2.5x faster startup time on the M1 port.
jki275 6y ago
JetBrains IDEs are quite heavy in my experience. I like their capabilities (pycharms at least), but they do come at a cost.
oxfordmale 6y ago
My MacBook Pro 2019 model is about to take off if I use both DataGrip and PyCharm at the same time.
- deergomoo 6y ago
  To be fair, a stern glance is usually enough to get a 2019 MacBook hot enough to cook your breakfast

temp667 6y ago

Jetbrain stuff has always been slow - until I got an AMD 5600 (ram at 3200). For whatever reason, this combo of chip and updates to their software maybe (I turn off a lot of the add ins) - I've stopped being annoyed at the speed. It's "fast enough".

mark_l_watson 6y ago
I don’t disagree with you, their IDEs have been full featured but a little slow. Suggestion, if I may: remove all plugins unless you really need them. That changes on Apple M1 Silicon. PyCharm and IntelliJ native are very fast, as is Apple’s XCode. Life is sweet.