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I think generally you can place an order before the market opens, maybe even the day before, but that doesn't really give you any pricing power. It will still p

I think generally you can place an order before the market opens, maybe even the day before, but that doesn't really give you any pricing power. It will still pop at the open and your order may not clear until it does. But that may still put you ahead of the Robinhood masses. Better option might be to try a pre-IPO trading platform like EquityZen.

throwaway803453 6y ago
From EquitZen's knowledge center: "Shares that are the subject of investment through EquityZen are generally subject to a lock-up period of up to 180 days after the effectiveness of a company's IPO filing, during which time shareholders are restricted from selling their shares."[1] The 180day lock-up period could EquityZen poorly suited for investors with a short time horizon.
- svachalek 6y ago
  In this case though, Coinbase is doing a direct listing, not an IPO. I think there is usually no lockup associated with a direct listing.
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  - inadequatespace 6y ago
    Er, PLTR still had a lockup for its direct listing. If this trend continues the “usually” aspect will not hold.
- sidlls 6y ago
  That only applies to IPOs. In a direct listing the shares start trading at the published reference price. There is no underwriting or other ceremony around it.
- jacobkranz 6y ago
  Could you do what Mark Cuban did and work with your brokerage to do sell calls & buy puts around the strike? That would lock in your price for a given amount of time.
  - findjashua 6y ago
    should be the other way around - buy calls and sell puts. that said, options usually are available a few days after the ipo, so may not accomplish the objective
    - adventured 6y ago
      If you had a sizable fortune at stake, you'd go to a major financial firm like Goldman Sachs, which handled the collar for Cuban, and they'll build you something custom. Almost any arrangement can be worked out, with a fat fee to go with it.
throwaway803453 6y ago
For a direct listing, does that mean Coinbase could conceivably charge any price they want for a market order given they are the only seller when it is first listed ?
- lmm 6y ago
  Other existing shareholders can sell as well (there's no lockup), and I guess short sellers could sell immediately? But yeah issuing a market on open order for a new stock would be a "courageous" move (but IMO that's true of any market order - don't use a market order instead of a limit order unless you're genuinely willing to buy at $999 / sell at $0.01).
  - inadequatespace 6y ago
    Could be a lockup still. There was for palantir.
pmorici 6y ago
CB just did a private offering through Nasdaq private market formerly Second Market. Couldn’t figure out how to participate in that.
- jcliff 6y ago
  I believe you need to email coinbase@secondmarket.com

throwaway803453 6y ago

From EquitZen's knowledge center: "Shares that are the subject of investment through EquityZen are generally subject to a lock-up period of up to 180 days after the effectiveness of a company's IPO filing, during which time shareholders are restricted from selling their shares."[1] The 180day lock-up period could EquityZen poorly suited for investors with a short time horizon.

svachalek 6y ago
In this case though, Coinbase is doing a direct listing, not an IPO. I think there is usually no lockup associated with a direct listing.
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- inadequatespace 6y ago
  Er, PLTR still had a lockup for its direct listing. If this trend continues the “usually” aspect will not hold.
sidlls 6y ago
That only applies to IPOs. In a direct listing the shares start trading at the published reference price. There is no underwriting or other ceremony around it.
jacobkranz 6y ago
Could you do what Mark Cuban did and work with your brokerage to do sell calls & buy puts around the strike? That would lock in your price for a given amount of time.
- findjashua 6y ago
  should be the other way around - buy calls and sell puts. that said, options usually are available a few days after the ipo, so may not accomplish the objective
  - adventured 6y ago
    If you had a sizable fortune at stake, you'd go to a major financial firm like Goldman Sachs, which handled the collar for Cuban, and they'll build you something custom. Almost any arrangement can be worked out, with a fat fee to go with it.

throwaway803453 6y ago

For a direct listing, does that mean Coinbase could conceivably charge any price they want for a market order given they are the only seller when it is first listed ?

lmm 6y ago
Other existing shareholders can sell as well (there's no lockup), and I guess short sellers could sell immediately? But yeah issuing a market on open order for a new stock would be a "courageous" move (but IMO that's true of any market order - don't use a market order instead of a limit order unless you're genuinely willing to buy at $999 / sell at $0.01).
- inadequatespace 6y ago
  Could be a lockup still. There was for palantir.

pmorici 6y ago

CB just did a private offering through Nasdaq private market formerly Second Market. Couldn’t figure out how to participate in that.

jcliff 6y ago
I believe you need to email coinbase@secondmarket.com