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There's not any real reason to be concerned about this. Not yet, at least. Furthermore, this comment is offensive. Let's please not pretend that Facebook and T
by Bud 6y ago
There's not any real reason to be concerned about this. Not yet, at least.
Furthermore, this comment is offensive. Let's please not pretend that Facebook and Twitter were "looking for an excuse" before deplatforming Trump. They were entirely justified and would have been justified in doing so many years before they eventually did so.
Let's also not put the word "incite" in dick quotes barely three weeks after an insurrection and attempted coup. There was actual incitement of violence in that case.
- herewegoagain2 6y agoLet's all pretend to have the same opinion and believe in the narrative. Why exactly, again?
- listless 6y agoI think there's plenty of reason to be concerned, but certainly not enough to be terrified or overreact with comments like "this comment is offensive".
- Bud 6y agoI don't think that expressing my opinion is an overreaction. It's offensive to minimize what happened on January 6th. That's what you do when you mock the notion that the president incited violence.
- jcadam 6y ago> It's offensive to minimize what happened on January 6th. That's what you do when you mock the notion that the president incited violence. No, that doesn't follow.
- juanani 6y agoAnd I am offended when a few loud voices maximize it. It is called making a mountain out of a mole hill and the media did well here to convince so many to not give too much thought about giving up their rights again. Very similar to 9/11 except less casualties thankfully. Just an interesting observation of how much control screens can exert then vs now. More are connected with constant access. We need better screen diets.
- herewegoagain2 6y ago"It's offensive" is not actually an argument. There never was a societal consensus that nobody should be allowed to say things that somebody could consider offensive. That's just what some people want, as a means to control other people.
- um_ya 6y agoI'm curious why people are so tender to the capital riots and not to the Chaz "autonomous zone" and the riots, continued even to this day, by BLM and Antifa. Is there a distinction I'm not getting here?
- Bud 6y agoThere are quite a few distinctions that should be obvious, yes, but let's stick to the most obvious one: BLM hasn't attempted to overturn a US election or overthrow the government. Or this one: BLM hasn't caused any deaths, to date; the Capitol (capitalized, btw, and with an "o") insurrection caused 5 and could easily have resulted in the assassination of various senior government officials. Or this one: BLM protests involved tens of millions of citizens across all walks of life and were prompted by very real social problems with police murdering black people; the Capitol riot was prompted by fascism and white supremacy. Do I need to go on?
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- goatinaboat 6y agoBLM hasn't attempted to overturn a US election or overthrow the government. Isn’t declaring part of the sovereign territory of the United States to be an autonomous zone sort of similar?
- katbyte 6y agoNot really lol, that’s more like trying to seceded or fight for independence while the capital insurrection attempted to kidnap and kill actual leaders of America.
- herewegoagain2 6y agoAny proof for that?
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- clankyclanker 6y agoI believe SMBC says it well: “I’m offended” is a much more useful concept than “it’s offensive.” https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2011-02-23 https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2011-02-23
- TheRealDunkirk 6y agoI put incite in "dick quotes" to emphasize that it has become the specific word with which to paint a comment _about_ violence when you don't like the message or the messenger, not to minimize or parody what happened on the 6th. Calm down, Bud.
- Bud 6y agoI don't think that "calm down" is an appropriate response; you don't know anything about my state of calmness, or lack thereof. Even if you did, it's frankly not your business whether I am calm or not, nor does it affect the quality of my argument. I appreciate your clarification, however. I withdraw my assertion that you were trying to minimize what happened on January 6th. And I apologize.
- TheRealDunkirk 6y agoTo be fair, you didn't seem to be bothered with inferring my state of mind in your original comment. Nor did your inference, even if true, change the meaning of what I said, either. I was going to say "Calm down, Francis," as per the old movie Stripes, and then changed it, but neither would have been helpful. I apologize too.
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- ehnto 6y agoIt was concerning because it was a demonstration of significant soft-power, and I think many people are surprised or hadn't yet considered the implications of that kind of power.
- shockeychap 6y agoWhere was all of this offense concerning violence when we watched countless businesses being burned and looted throughout the summer? I'm not justifying what happened at the Capitol, but the shouts of righteous indignation ring more than a little hollow.
- MrMan 6y agoWhen things ring hollow, that is like nails on a chalkboard.
- Bantros 6y agoOh no, it's offensive. Get a grip