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4chan hosts it's own server: — how could it? Cloudflare did drop 8chan for political pressure. Both also have a very undeserved reputation. I saw news reports

4chan hosts it's own server: — how could it? Cloudflare did drop 8chan for political pressure. Both also have a very undeserved reputation. I saw news reports on 8chan as if it were something similar to Stormfront. The front page was mostly video game and pornography and one had to search very deep into it's hidden circles to find racial supremacy content.

baud147258 6y ago
Even if 4chan host their servers, if they're not in someone's basement, they'd be in colocation, which can then be targeted, since I don't think 4chan own the full datacenter.
- swebs 6y ago
  Don't know about now, but it was hosted in a basement as of 2012. https://i.warosu.org/data/g/img/0689/86/1545245294211.jpg https://i.warosu.org/data/g/img/0689/86/1545245294211.jpg
dmurray 6y ago
> 4chan hosts it's own server: — how could it? ISPs could just drop their customers' traffic to that server. This happens all the time and has happened to 4chan before. Or they could go further and refuse to peer with any ISP that doesn't block 4chan, or lobby to have the government compel ISPs to block it, likely on think-of-the-children or think-of-the-terrorism grounds. Self hosting definitely isn't some magic way of preventing all censorship.
- scythe 6y ago
  A coordinated effort by ISPs to ban a website will absolutely invite regulatory interest. If they can ban 4chan, why can't we make them ban [...]?
  - h_anna_h 6y ago
    It already happens in the UK using the IWF list. Wikipedia was blocked for a while there due to it.
- ntsplnkv2 6y ago
  > Self hosting definitely isn't some magic way of preventing all censorship. There is no perfect pill. People who self host have higher protections than those that don't.
- vbezhenar 6y ago
  Just use VPN or Tor. My country blocks lots of websites, so VPN is routine thing for me. I recommend wireguard.
  - marvin 6y ago
    That's a decent workaround if you're technical and stubborn, but there needs to be a solution for this that's available for everyone with just a few clicks.
  - Dma54rhs 6y ago
    You won't be able to post on 4chan and probably many other anonymous communities while on vpn unless a friend of your sets it up from a residential ip. With TOR you have to hire someone to fill captchas just to read things.
- canofbars 6y ago
  My mobile internet provider actually did this for about a year after the New Zeeland shooting. Was quite annoying and I considered switching to another company because I quite enjoyed shitposting about bicycles on /t/
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h_anna_h 6y ago
4chan uses cloudflare
swebs 6y ago
Which is doubly ironic since, aside from gamergate, 8chan was mostly famous for hosting /leftypol/.

baud147258 6y ago

Even if 4chan host their servers, if they're not in someone's basement, they'd be in colocation, which can then be targeted, since I don't think 4chan own the full datacenter.

swebs 6y ago
Don't know about now, but it was hosted in a basement as of 2012. https://i.warosu.org/data/g/img/0689/86/1545245294211.jpg https://i.warosu.org/data/g/img/0689/86/1545245294211.jpg

dmurray 6y ago

> 4chan hosts it's own server: — how could it? ISPs could just drop their customers' traffic to that server. This happens all the time and has happened to 4chan before. Or they could go further and refuse to peer with any ISP that doesn't block 4chan, or lobby to have the government compel ISPs to block it, likely on think-of-the-children or think-of-the-terrorism grounds. Self hosting definitely isn't some magic way of preventing all censorship.

scythe 6y ago
A coordinated effort by ISPs to ban a website will absolutely invite regulatory interest. If they can ban 4chan, why can't we make them ban [...]?
- h_anna_h 6y ago
  It already happens in the UK using the IWF list. Wikipedia was blocked for a while there due to it.
ntsplnkv2 6y ago
> Self hosting definitely isn't some magic way of preventing all censorship. There is no perfect pill. People who self host have higher protections than those that don't.
vbezhenar 6y ago
Just use VPN or Tor. My country blocks lots of websites, so VPN is routine thing for me. I recommend wireguard.
- marvin 6y ago
  That's a decent workaround if you're technical and stubborn, but there needs to be a solution for this that's available for everyone with just a few clicks.
- Dma54rhs 6y ago
  You won't be able to post on 4chan and probably many other anonymous communities while on vpn unless a friend of your sets it up from a residential ip. With TOR you have to hire someone to fill captchas just to read things.
canofbars 6y ago
My mobile internet provider actually did this for about a year after the New Zeeland shooting. Was quite annoying and I considered switching to another company because I quite enjoyed shitposting about bicycles on /t/

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h_anna_h 6y ago

4chan uses cloudflare

swebs 6y ago

Which is doubly ironic since, aside from gamergate, 8chan was mostly famous for hosting /leftypol/.