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Information travels very quickly through a medium that wishes it to be true. You will find that the ability of the human mind to be critical, to refute with ve

Information travels very quickly through a medium that wishes it to be true. You will find that the ability of the human mind to be critical, to refute with very salient arguments is suddenly acute when the mind doesn't wish it to be true, and this definitely also applies to H.N. comments. That H.N. in this case is so accepting to this one side of the story suggests to me that this is the side it seems to want to be true, notwithstanding it might entirely be, or not be, true.

remram 6y ago
In your mind, is that "one side" that misconduct happens? Do you think the opposite side "it never happens" is reasonable? No one here is trying to argue that it happens all the time or more often than not, I'm wondering if that's what you think we're reading.
- Blikkentrekker 6y ago
  I find that rarely when a side has an “opposing side” that either side is reasonable In this case, “misconduct happens” is not opposite to “it never happens” and I do not find the comments to echo the former sentiment as much as “Academia has become so ripe with either outright malice, or an inability to catch earnest mistakes, that virtually no research can be trusted.” > No one here is trying to argue that it happens all the time or more often than not, I'm wondering if that's what you think we're reading. No one is indeed arguing that, but what many, including me, are arguing is that nothing can really be trusted any more because it's a coinflip whether data is even reproducible.
  - remram 6y ago
    There are definitely two sides to your story then :) Not necessarily to the top comments I have read. It might be a more important story though.
jiofih 6y ago
#bothsides
Aeolun 6y ago
On the other hand, we are presented with the raw data that makes the author of this article suspicious.
- Blikkentrekker 6y ago
  Even in the face of such evidence, it often turns out that when the other side tells it's story it's more reasonable than that and there are explanations.

remram 6y ago

In your mind, is that "one side" that misconduct happens? Do you think the opposite side "it never happens" is reasonable? No one here is trying to argue that it happens all the time or more often than not, I'm wondering if that's what you think we're reading.

Blikkentrekker 6y ago
I find that rarely when a side has an “opposing side” that either side is reasonable In this case, “misconduct happens” is not opposite to “it never happens” and I do not find the comments to echo the former sentiment as much as “Academia has become so ripe with either outright malice, or an inability to catch earnest mistakes, that virtually no research can be trusted.” > No one here is trying to argue that it happens all the time or more often than not, I'm wondering if that's what you think we're reading. No one is indeed arguing that, but what many, including me, are arguing is that nothing can really be trusted any more because it's a coinflip whether data is even reproducible.
- remram 6y ago
  There are definitely two sides to your story then :) Not necessarily to the top comments I have read. It might be a more important story though.

jiofih 6y ago

#bothsides

Aeolun 6y ago

On the other hand, we are presented with the raw data that makes the author of this article suspicious.

Blikkentrekker 6y ago
Even in the face of such evidence, it often turns out that when the other side tells it's story it's more reasonable than that and there are explanations.