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How is that even legal
by peterpost2 6y ago
How is that even legal
- minikites 6y agoBecause enough people think making laws restricting companies in any way prevents "innovation". Corporations should be able to do whatever they want because if they were truly bad, they would just go out of business, right? It's the worldview of a third grader.
- fcantournet 6y agoI don't know why your getting downvoted, this is clearly the dominating ideology of Silicon Valley.
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- awefasdfasdf 6y agoRead 'The age of surveillance capitalism'. Engineers should understand the business models they create.
- minikites 6y agoEngineers don't respect any subject outside of STEM, education like this would fall on deaf ears.
- awefasdfasdf 6y agoThey seem to respect their inflated salaries.
- shrimp_emoji 6y agoIn America, what else is there? :3
- tolbish 6y agoThat's not true; they respect the sciences. But only sufficiently "hard" ones like chemistry and biology.
- yannoninator 6y agoscience is STEM no?
- tolbish 6y agoBut not all sciences are respected.
- yakubin 6y agoYou seem to think that the meaning of "STEM" includes anything that anyone applied the word "science" to. But no, the "science" part is precisely the "hard" sciences. E.g. psychology, economics and theology aren't included in STEM.
- tolbish 6y agoI thought it was STEM instead of HSTEM. Silly me. Sarcasm aside, not all natural sciences are treated equally. There are differing attitudes towards astronomy, oceanography, and climatology, for example.
- call_me_dana 6y agoHi! Systems engineer for two decades now. I have a deep respect for philosophy, natural medicine, photography and the environment. I suspect many other engineers would have interests outside of their profession.
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- eulers_secret 6y agoI understand this knee-jerk reaction, but please don't judge engineers by what they post on HN. This place is... odd. (as I'm sure you know!) If I formed my opinion only from HN, I'd think most engineers love: big-tech, advertising, electric cars, Apple, tech-enabled tracking (autos, web, cell-phone, watches, exercise machines, music players - it's ok if business profits!), and tend toward self-righteousness, narcissism, and virtue-signalling. Of course, most of us are just living our lives and trying to get by. I don't know where this self-important insufferable attitude comes from, but I suspect it's a few folks who are very noisy. Most 'normal' people don't spend much time posting to sites like these, so there is a selection bias. Sadly, I also suspect that this attitude is an advantage in today's environment. It is a mirage of self-confidence, and telling the two apart can be very hard (especially for a potential employer).
- etiam 6y agoThere are plenty of categories of human for which this community would not stand for an overly broad, coarse generalization like that. Personally I'm not even convinced your claim is effective as a prejudice. What I'll concede is many engineers I've met seem to be harsher than average on pseudoscience och some varieties of manipulative lies, but that's to be expected as they have distinguishing knowledge for such things to clash with.
- Teever 6y agoI know, right? Like if I were to be caught doing this to a random woman it would be appropriately labelled 'stalking' yet when a company does it they potentially have a patentable marketing technique on their hands or something.
- minikites 6y agoIt's good when a company does it because they create value in the economy. It's only bad when a person does it because no value is created.
- zwirbl 6y agoIn values we trust. Shareholder value that is
- Tarsul 6y agodon't know if you're sarcastic. However, just because a company makes money, doesn't mean value is created. Like when you win in poker against someone, you're making money but not creating value.
- _-david-_ 6y agoI am not who you were responding to, but I think playing poker would create entertainment (even for the loser) which could be considered something of value.
- howlin 6y agoI mostly agree with your point, but it has to be said that poker players are creating entertainment value for each other. Even if the cash portion of the game is zero or even negative sum.
- ghostDancer 6y agoYou forgot the /s. This is HN here you find people that can take that seriously and agree.
- numpad0 6y agonothing is illegal if no one understands a thing
- notriddle 6y ago> It is how they track people who have been suspended on the platform That sounds like a legitimate interest to me.
- dang 6y agoWe detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25917326 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25917326.