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The mistake people often make is mistaking a "fun" or "caring" atmosphere and demeanor of the company and assuming that that actually means the company cares ab

by lumost 6y ago

The mistake people often make is mistaking a "fun" or "caring" atmosphere and demeanor of the company and assuming that that actually means the company cares about "fun" or cares for their employees. If there is anything that poses a risk to the company, interferes with an employees ability to serve the company, or in any way reduces productivity... there will be no difference between canonical and oracle or even canonical and McDonalds. The difference between your experience working at these companies is largely window dressing on the same corporate employer/employee model.

IgorPartola 6y ago
So to you there is no difference working for McDonalds or Canonical or Oracle? And what is your solution? Work for the government? Everyone should work on the family farm because families always treat their members better than anyone else and nobody gets exploited? Do not work at all? Again, this is like saying that if you push a person hard enough they will commit violence which immediately implies that all people are violent criminals. It’s simply not how that works, and equating all current and past behavior to what someone is capable of is silly.
- lumost 6y ago
  I vastly prefer working at a company that pays well and will attempt as far as a company can to care about me as an individual. My point was that it's a common error, particularly amongst people new to the workforce to mistake the impression of caring for actual caring.
  - IgorPartola 6y ago
    Ah OK that makes sense. I have experienced working at companies that will go to greater lengths than others to accommodate their employees in lieu of profits or even profitability, but yes they all have their limits, just like individual people have limits on their altruism. It certainly is easier for an individual to be more altruistic than for a corporation.

by lumost 6y ago

IgorPartola 6y ago

So to you there is no difference working for McDonalds or Canonical or Oracle? And what is your solution? Work for the government? Everyone should work on the family farm because families always treat their members better than anyone else and nobody gets exploited? Do not work at all? Again, this is like saying that if you push a person hard enough they will commit violence which immediately implies that all people are violent criminals. It’s simply not how that works, and equating all current and past behavior to what someone is capable of is silly.

lumost 6y ago
I vastly prefer working at a company that pays well and will attempt as far as a company can to care about me as an individual. My point was that it's a common error, particularly amongst people new to the workforce to mistake the impression of caring for actual caring.
- IgorPartola 6y ago
  Ah OK that makes sense. I have experienced working at companies that will go to greater lengths than others to accommodate their employees in lieu of profits or even profitability, but yes they all have their limits, just like individual people have limits on their altruism. It certainly is easier for an individual to be more altruistic than for a corporation.