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Does brazil have a 50c army like china now? > then the party lost the next election. with the running candidate jailed with obviously fabricated evidence and

Does brazil have a 50c army like china now? > then the party lost the next election. with the running candidate jailed with obviously fabricated evidence and released last year with no conviction. All the while with whatsapp campaigns promoting pizza-gate like conspiracies. > her VP served out the rest of her term that I fully blame on the party picking an extremely right wing to be able to get elected. But don't make the soft coup less of a coup. The VP was choose to get support from the farmers and religious groups that control most of the interior of the country, and they payed the price for that.

Natsu 6y ago
> Does brazil have a 50c army like china now? If it does, I didn't get my 50 Mao cents for posting. And you'd think China would support the Partido dos Trabalhadores (Worker's Party) ideologically, but it's their Mao cents, not mine. Lula was convicted twice, he only got freed from jail because of a new legal ruling that said that you can't be jailed until all appeals have been heard. That's... not the same as "no convictions" even if you want to claim the judges were both biased. And I'm not aware of anyone accusing Lula of being a pedophile, though maybe someone did? Everything I remember hearing blamed him for robbing Petrobras. You sure you're not getting Lula confused with "João de Deus"? I thought he was the one who was raping people.
- marcodiego 6y ago
  > he only got freed from jail because of a new legal ruling that said that you can't be jailed until all appeals have been heard Actually Lula deliberately chose to stay imprisoned: https://veja.abril.com.br/politica/lula-nao-quer-cumprir-pena-no-regime-aberto-e-agora/ https://veja.abril.com.br/politica/lula-nao-quer-cumprir-pen...
  - Natsu 6y ago
    Your article refers to the "regime semiaberto" that Lula was offered after completing one sixth of his sentence. This was prior to the Brazilian Supreme Court ruling that released him on 8 November 2019. His case is still pending before the Supremo Tribunal Federal.
    - marcodiego 6y ago
      Translating: Lula could go on probation but deliberately chose to remain imprisoned because he did not '[...] recognized any legitimacy of the process which condemned him[...]'. The supreme court then ruled that "you can't be jailed until all appeals have been heard". Only then he decided to get out of prison.
      - Natsu 6y ago
        I don't think we're disagreeing with each other at this point. He was only actually freed by the supreme court ruling that he could not be jailed until all appeals (of which there are many) were exhausted. Regime semiaberto is roughly equivalent to being allowed to go out under house arrest and wouldn't have changed his conditions much.
virgulino 6y ago
> with the running candidate jailed with obviously fabricated evidence and released last year with no conviction That is factually false, and very very easy to fact check.
- Natsu 6y ago
  I guess when they said "Lula e Haddad, Haddad e Lula" people took it a bit too literally? :)

Natsu 6y ago

> Does brazil have a 50c army like china now? If it does, I didn't get my 50 Mao cents for posting. And you'd think China would support the Partido dos Trabalhadores (Worker's Party) ideologically, but it's their Mao cents, not mine. Lula was convicted twice, he only got freed from jail because of a new legal ruling that said that you can't be jailed until all appeals have been heard. That's... not the same as "no convictions" even if you want to claim the judges were both biased. And I'm not aware of anyone accusing Lula of being a pedophile, though maybe someone did? Everything I remember hearing blamed him for robbing Petrobras. You sure you're not getting Lula confused with "João de Deus"? I thought he was the one who was raping people.

marcodiego 6y ago
> he only got freed from jail because of a new legal ruling that said that you can't be jailed until all appeals have been heard Actually Lula deliberately chose to stay imprisoned: https://veja.abril.com.br/politica/lula-nao-quer-cumprir-pena-no-regime-aberto-e-agora/ https://veja.abril.com.br/politica/lula-nao-quer-cumprir-pen...
- Natsu 6y ago
  Your article refers to the "regime semiaberto" that Lula was offered after completing one sixth of his sentence. This was prior to the Brazilian Supreme Court ruling that released him on 8 November 2019. His case is still pending before the Supremo Tribunal Federal.
  - marcodiego 6y ago
    Translating: Lula could go on probation but deliberately chose to remain imprisoned because he did not '[...] recognized any legitimacy of the process which condemned him[...]'. The supreme court then ruled that "you can't be jailed until all appeals have been heard". Only then he decided to get out of prison.
    - Natsu 6y ago
      I don't think we're disagreeing with each other at this point. He was only actually freed by the supreme court ruling that he could not be jailed until all appeals (of which there are many) were exhausted. Regime semiaberto is roughly equivalent to being allowed to go out under house arrest and wouldn't have changed his conditions much.

virgulino 6y ago

> with the running candidate jailed with obviously fabricated evidence and released last year with no conviction That is factually false, and very very easy to fact check.

Natsu 6y ago
I guess when they said "Lula e Haddad, Haddad e Lula" people took it a bit too literally? :)