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Japan is pretty damn racist, any white who has there for an extended period of time knows that their skin color means they have a much harder time in certain es

by Taek 6y ago

Japan is pretty damn racist, any white who has there for an extended period of time knows that their skin color means they have a much harder time in certain establishments, or even just aren't allowed at all.

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birdyrooster 6y ago
If you are white in Japan they will perpetually treat you like a tourist, which when you are a tourist is great bc they are super helpful, but I could see it becoming demeaning if one wanted to reside there permanently. If you are black in Japan people treat you like an oddity and take pictures of you without asking, comment on your skin color, etc bc they rarely see black people in person. It’s quite rude and I agree racist.
- bena 6y ago
  The thing I've heard about Japan is that they're incredibly racist, but so polite it's hard to notice.
  - cbozeman 6y ago
    The only people downvoting you are people who haven't spent any time there. I was there for over a year, and most Americans can't pick up on the racism initially because its subtle, but like every Oz behind a curtain, once you slow down and pay attention, its glaringly obvious. There are entirely too many idiots - and I don't care what anyone here says, they are idiots - who think only Americans can be racist.
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Razengan 6y ago
Is it just like having dark skin in white-majority countries, or worse? /r/2020PoliceBrutality
- mhh__ 6y ago
  Please don't lump the US and the rest of the world together. The UK still has racism, for example, but we don't get people being regularly shot by police black or not.
  - arpa 6y ago
    Bobbies are less trigger happy, true, however there are quite a few that will happily hit someone on their head repeatedly. I guess that's common for law enforcement anywhere.
  - eggbert12 6y ago
    According to the Washington Post police shooting database, 19 unarmed black men were shot by police in all of 2019. Not exactly some runaway problem. Meanwhile your government can dictate whether your child can live or die based on their calculated prognosis - and won’t let you leave the country for a second opinion.
    - mhh__ 6y ago
      > According to the Washington Post police shooting database, 19 unarmed black men were shot by police in all of 2019. Not exactly some runaway problem. Ignoring that 2019 seemed to be a low year, that's still more people than were killed by police in the UK in total. > Meanwhile your government can dictate whether your child can live or die based on their calculated prognosis - and won’t let you leave the country for a second opinion. Second opinion from whom? NICE have to balance treatments based on cost-efficiency as well as efficacy, if you want to pay for better treatment they don't stop you because it's not on the NHS. https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/health/nhs-healthcare/nhs-patients-rights/ https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/health/nhs-healthcare/nhs-... If you want a second opinion you have to change GP, which is basically exact what you'd do in the states anyway. Just because you want them to give you an opinion doesn't mean you'll get the one you want. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/ https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-fin... Meanwhile, people die every year in the United States because they have no healthcare at all. A Bit of perspective...
Geminidog 6y ago
I wouldn't call it racist. You are genuinely an oddity if you're not japanese and not a tourist. Racism is a deeper thing. True racism exists in some form between the chinese and the japanese due to the horrific atrocities committed by the japanese in the rape of nanking.
- nullsense 6y ago
  >I wouldn't call it racist. I would. Sure, in most cases people don't actively dislike you when compared with some Japanese people that spew vitriol and really have it out for Koreans or Chinese, but you still get treated differently and often not in a good way. I've met many, many people over the years, myself included, who wound up developing a love/hate relationship with Japan because of the racism.
  - Geminidog 6y ago
    I wouldn't call it racism because this behavior isn't unique to japan... it's unique to humanity. It will happen everywhere where you look and drastically different from anything the local population has ever seen before. Only certain places have a unique culture where such treatment is deliberately frowned upon culturally. We are from the west so equality seems normal but it is not the default. If you decide to live in Asia, expect the default, it's not actually racist; it's normal. Generally you just don't like being treated as a foreigner. But that's actually what you are. Don't expect to travel to another place and have them treat you as a local.
    - nullsense 6y ago
      I know that it's the default. Doesn't make it not racism. It's not only racism when it happens in desirable countries people want to immigrate to en-masse. Functionally it's the same thing. They just turn a blind eye because "hey it's normal, right?". It has been an ongoing shift over decades and even hundreds of years in the so-called melting pots of the world to get to the point people can live alongside people different than them and at least pretend they're equal and should be treated as such. It wasn't always the default in the West. The rest of the world needs to catch up. They're behind the times.
ku-man 6y ago
I am not sure is racist is the best qualifier. I'd rather think of the Japanese society as most xenophobic. P.S. Now, if you are black, yeah that's racism.
jelliclesfarm 6y ago
Well. 1. Little Boy and Hiroshima. 2. Fat Man and Nagasaki.
- Veen 6y ago
  3. The Rape of Nanking 4. Pearl Harbor
  - jelliclesfarm 6y ago
    Pearl Harbour doesn’t count. Certainly not in the same sentence as Rape of Nanking

by Taek 6y ago

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birdyrooster 6y ago

If you are white in Japan they will perpetually treat you like a tourist, which when you are a tourist is great bc they are super helpful, but I could see it becoming demeaning if one wanted to reside there permanently. If you are black in Japan people treat you like an oddity and take pictures of you without asking, comment on your skin color, etc bc they rarely see black people in person. It’s quite rude and I agree racist.

bena 6y ago
The thing I've heard about Japan is that they're incredibly racist, but so polite it's hard to notice.
- cbozeman 6y ago
  The only people downvoting you are people who haven't spent any time there. I was there for over a year, and most Americans can't pick up on the racism initially because its subtle, but like every Oz behind a curtain, once you slow down and pay attention, its glaringly obvious. There are entirely too many idiots - and I don't care what anyone here says, they are idiots - who think only Americans can be racist.
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Razengan 6y ago

Is it just like having dark skin in white-majority countries, or worse? /r/2020PoliceBrutality

mhh__ 6y ago
Please don't lump the US and the rest of the world together. The UK still has racism, for example, but we don't get people being regularly shot by police black or not.
- arpa 6y ago
  Bobbies are less trigger happy, true, however there are quite a few that will happily hit someone on their head repeatedly. I guess that's common for law enforcement anywhere.
- eggbert12 6y ago
  According to the Washington Post police shooting database, 19 unarmed black men were shot by police in all of 2019. Not exactly some runaway problem. Meanwhile your government can dictate whether your child can live or die based on their calculated prognosis - and won’t let you leave the country for a second opinion.
  - mhh__ 6y ago
    > According to the Washington Post police shooting database, 19 unarmed black men were shot by police in all of 2019. Not exactly some runaway problem. Ignoring that 2019 seemed to be a low year, that's still more people than were killed by police in the UK in total. > Meanwhile your government can dictate whether your child can live or die based on their calculated prognosis - and won’t let you leave the country for a second opinion. Second opinion from whom? NICE have to balance treatments based on cost-efficiency as well as efficacy, if you want to pay for better treatment they don't stop you because it's not on the NHS. https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/health/nhs-healthcare/nhs-patients-rights/ https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/health/nhs-healthcare/nhs-... If you want a second opinion you have to change GP, which is basically exact what you'd do in the states anyway. Just because you want them to give you an opinion doesn't mean you'll get the one you want. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/ https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-fin... Meanwhile, people die every year in the United States because they have no healthcare at all. A Bit of perspective...

Geminidog 6y ago

I wouldn't call it racist. You are genuinely an oddity if you're not japanese and not a tourist. Racism is a deeper thing. True racism exists in some form between the chinese and the japanese due to the horrific atrocities committed by the japanese in the rape of nanking.

nullsense 6y ago
>I wouldn't call it racist. I would. Sure, in most cases people don't actively dislike you when compared with some Japanese people that spew vitriol and really have it out for Koreans or Chinese, but you still get treated differently and often not in a good way. I've met many, many people over the years, myself included, who wound up developing a love/hate relationship with Japan because of the racism.
- Geminidog 6y ago
  I wouldn't call it racism because this behavior isn't unique to japan... it's unique to humanity. It will happen everywhere where you look and drastically different from anything the local population has ever seen before. Only certain places have a unique culture where such treatment is deliberately frowned upon culturally. We are from the west so equality seems normal but it is not the default. If you decide to live in Asia, expect the default, it's not actually racist; it's normal. Generally you just don't like being treated as a foreigner. But that's actually what you are. Don't expect to travel to another place and have them treat you as a local.
  - nullsense 6y ago
    I know that it's the default. Doesn't make it not racism. It's not only racism when it happens in desirable countries people want to immigrate to en-masse. Functionally it's the same thing. They just turn a blind eye because "hey it's normal, right?". It has been an ongoing shift over decades and even hundreds of years in the so-called melting pots of the world to get to the point people can live alongside people different than them and at least pretend they're equal and should be treated as such. It wasn't always the default in the West. The rest of the world needs to catch up. They're behind the times.

ku-man 6y ago

I am not sure is racist is the best qualifier. I'd rather think of the Japanese society as most xenophobic. P.S. Now, if you are black, yeah that's racism.

jelliclesfarm 6y ago

Well. 1. Little Boy and Hiroshima. 2. Fat Man and Nagasaki.

Veen 6y ago
3. The Rape of Nanking 4. Pearl Harbor
- jelliclesfarm 6y ago
  Pearl Harbour doesn’t count. Certainly not in the same sentence as Rape of Nanking