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Maybe it's just the weird intolerances - but Japan seems to have much worse and bigger intolerances than anywhere else.
by snemvalts 6y ago
Maybe it's just the weird intolerances - but Japan seems to have much worse and bigger intolerances than anywhere else.
- Taek 6y agoJapan is pretty damn racist, any white who has there for an extended period of time knows that their skin color means they have a much harder time in certain establishments, or even just aren't allowed at all.
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- birdyrooster 6y agoIf you are white in Japan they will perpetually treat you like a tourist, which when you are a tourist is great bc they are super helpful, but I could see it becoming demeaning if one wanted to reside there permanently. If you are black in Japan people treat you like an oddity and take pictures of you without asking, comment on your skin color, etc bc they rarely see black people in person. It’s quite rude and I agree racist.
- bena 6y agoThe thing I've heard about Japan is that they're incredibly racist, but so polite it's hard to notice.
- cbozeman 6y agoThe only people downvoting you are people who haven't spent any time there. I was there for over a year, and most Americans can't pick up on the racism initially because its subtle, but like every Oz behind a curtain, once you slow down and pay attention, its glaringly obvious. There are entirely too many idiots - and I don't care what anyone here says, they are idiots - who think only Americans can be racist.
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- Razengan 6y agoIs it just like having dark skin in white-majority countries, or worse? /r/2020PoliceBrutality
- mhh__ 6y agoPlease don't lump the US and the rest of the world together. The UK still has racism, for example, but we don't get people being regularly shot by police black or not.
- arpa 6y agoBobbies are less trigger happy, true, however there are quite a few that will happily hit someone on their head repeatedly. I guess that's common for law enforcement anywhere.
- eggbert12 6y agoAccording to the Washington Post police shooting database, 19 unarmed black men were shot by police in all of 2019. Not exactly some runaway problem. Meanwhile your government can dictate whether your child can live or die based on their calculated prognosis - and won’t let you leave the country for a second opinion.
- mhh__ 6y ago> According to the Washington Post police shooting database, 19 unarmed black men were shot by police in all of 2019. Not exactly some runaway problem. Ignoring that 2019 seemed to be a low year, that's still more people than were killed by police in the UK in total. > Meanwhile your government can dictate whether your child can live or die based on their calculated prognosis - and won’t let you leave the country for a second opinion. Second opinion from whom? NICE have to balance treatments based on cost-efficiency as well as efficacy, if you want to pay for better treatment they don't stop you because it's not on the NHS. https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/health/nhs-healthcare/nhs-patients-rights/ https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/health/nhs-healthcare/nhs-... If you want a second opinion you have to change GP, which is basically exact what you'd do in the states anyway. Just because you want them to give you an opinion doesn't mean you'll get the one you want. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/ https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-fin... Meanwhile, people die every year in the United States because they have no healthcare at all. A Bit of perspective...
- Geminidog 6y agoI wouldn't call it racist. You are genuinely an oddity if you're not japanese and not a tourist. Racism is a deeper thing. True racism exists in some form between the chinese and the japanese due to the horrific atrocities committed by the japanese in the rape of nanking.
- nullsense 6y ago>I wouldn't call it racist. I would. Sure, in most cases people don't actively dislike you when compared with some Japanese people that spew vitriol and really have it out for Koreans or Chinese, but you still get treated differently and often not in a good way. I've met many, many people over the years, myself included, who wound up developing a love/hate relationship with Japan because of the racism.
- Geminidog 6y agoI wouldn't call it racism because this behavior isn't unique to japan... it's unique to humanity. It will happen everywhere where you look and drastically different from anything the local population has ever seen before. Only certain places have a unique culture where such treatment is deliberately frowned upon culturally. We are from the west so equality seems normal but it is not the default. If you decide to live in Asia, expect the default, it's not actually racist; it's normal. Generally you just don't like being treated as a foreigner. But that's actually what you are. Don't expect to travel to another place and have them treat you as a local.
- nullsense 6y agoI know that it's the default. Doesn't make it not racism. It's not only racism when it happens in desirable countries people want to immigrate to en-masse. Functionally it's the same thing. They just turn a blind eye because "hey it's normal, right?". It has been an ongoing shift over decades and even hundreds of years in the so-called melting pots of the world to get to the point people can live alongside people different than them and at least pretend they're equal and should be treated as such. It wasn't always the default in the West. The rest of the world needs to catch up. They're behind the times.
- ku-man 6y agoI am not sure is racist is the best qualifier. I'd rather think of the Japanese society as most xenophobic. P.S. Now, if you are black, yeah that's racism.
- jelliclesfarm 6y agoWell. 1. Little Boy and Hiroshima. 2. Fat Man and Nagasaki.
- Veen 6y ago3. The Rape of Nanking 4. Pearl Harbor
- jelliclesfarm 6y agoPearl Harbour doesn’t count. Certainly not in the same sentence as Rape of Nanking
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- uncledave 6y agoIt’s surprisingly bad here in the UK as well. At one of the local schools here any uniform violation means isolation. They take your phone away and you are kept on your own in a room until the end of the day and visited by teachers only to issue work. The student this happened to, my daughter, caused this to be triggered by dying her hair a lighter shade of brown than her normal colour. I found out about this when she arrived home without her phone because the teacher had left it locked in her desk. She was moved to a not insane school immediately and complaints raised with the school and the phone was collected by me the next day. Of course all record of all events magically disappeared.
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- Symbiote 6y agoI'm sure this has become worse. It seems to have happened with the change in many places to "academy" schools, where appearance reigns and they're run like businesses. In the 1990s-2000s, when my parents were both teachers and I was at school, "uniform" meant wearing the correct colours (e.g. dark trousers or skirt, white shirt/t-shirt, blue jumper/sweater). It was still ridiculous, but being punished for it would require repeatedly breaking those rules. The usual response was the teacher saying "tuck your shirt in, William".
- uncledave 6y agoThat’s a good observation. That was an academy school.
- ogogmad 6y agoIs the point of school uniform to squash individuality? Is this how we want to prepare children for adulthood? I doubt that conformity, submission to arbitrary rules out of fear, and not standing out are good things to teach children, at least if you don't want them to become a bunch of zombies as adults. Also, given the choice, who wants the sort of job that mandates a uniform?
- Razengan 6y agoYour list of “anywhere else” must be pretty fucking short if you really believe that.
- elric 6y agoWhat weird intolerances specifically are you referring to? Other than the black hair thing. Here's a list of bizarre things that my school in Belgium was intolerant about back when I was in school. These are just the ones that come to mind right now, there were many others. 1. No short hair for girls. No bald boys. No dyed hair. 2. No piercings for boys, and only pierced ears for girls 3. No hats. No shorts. 4. No long skirts for girls. No short skirts for girls. Only between knee and calf length or some such bizarre nonsense. 5. No skirts for boys (I tried a kilt once, was not appreciated). 6. No rings for boys. Not "too many" rings for girls. 7. No sitting in boys' laps. Except when you're a girl sitting in another girl's lap, that was apparently fine. 8. No tops with straps thinner than a finger (for girls, I guess). The problematic gendering aside, all of those rules always seemed bizarre and stupidly specific to me. Did a pierced bald boy with a ring once torch a school? Do teachers have some kind of phobia for specific hairdos? I get that it's a conformity thing, but conformity never struck me as being useful.
- arpa 6y agoConformity is useful in terms of (illusionary) efficiency: they look the same, they think the same, so you can run the same algo on them and they will produce a curve-bell result which you can use to single out and either eliminate or boost outliers. Problem is, diversity runs deeper than appearances; but few people and even fewer _orgs_ grok that.
- riffraff 6y ago> Did a pierced bald boy with a ring once torch a school? Do teachers have some kind of phobia for specific hairdos? I can't say this was the case for your school, but often certain events or changes in culture cause rules to be established that end up being incomprehensible years later. For example a shaved head was ok when I started school, but when neo-nazi skinheads became popular in the '90s the haircut became unwelcome (though not strictly prohibited).
- elric 6y agoYou would think that the logical thing to rally against would be neo-nazi behaviour instead of hairdos. Of course the former is much harder to detect & enforce than the latter. So instead we pick a terrible proxy to identify unwanted behaviour. A few iterations later, anyone who doesn't fit a narrow set of criteria is immediately suspicious.