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A 10B Pixel Scan of Vermeer’s Masterpiece
- adenozine 6y agoIs there some way to download this scan locally?
- mkmk 6y agoJust curious, and respectfully... why?
- rektide 6y agoIt'd be fun to edge-detect the close in shots at a couple different frequencies, & use it to build a terrain map. Go run around the cracks in the painting. Limitless human creativity is the fun answer. ;)
- meowster 6y agoIf anyone does, can you please make a torrent so we don't overwhelm the site?
- miahi 6y agoThe tiles have the format https ://www.micro-pano.com/pearl/panos/STITCH_-_FULL_35x.tiles/l8/[line]/l8_[line]_[column].jpg where lines start from 001 to 219 and columns from 001 to 192
- hetspookjee 6y agoI don't understand why they chose to present these parts as .jpg. Why go through the effort of creating a 10B pixels masterpiece, when you compress it with a lossy format like jpg. Or am I missing something? Also here's a working link for anyone to lazy to insert the numbers: https://www.micro-pano.com/pearl/panos/STITCH_-_FULL_35x.tiles/l8/001/l8_001_010.jpg https://www.micro-pano.com/pearl/panos/STITCH_-_FULL_35x.til...
- dagw 6y agoI don't understand why they chose to present these parts as .jpg I suspect that this page is primarily for getting publicity and 'buzz'. If you want the data for actual research I'm sure they have it in much better formats.
- zamadatix 6y ago"Why go through the effort of creating a 10B pixels masterpiece, when you compress it with a lossy format like jpg. Or am I missing something?" Remember you're looking at tilesets for the web browser viewer on a public site, not a copy of the raw data for research purposes.
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- meowster 6y agoDoes anyone know if there's a database with the highest quality scans of different masterpieces?
- afkqs 6y agoYou can find a few paintings scanned in high quality here: https://artsandculture.google.com/project/art-camera https://artsandculture.google.com/project/art-camera Rembrandt's self-portrait is one of my favourites: https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/self-portrait/-gHQe8vbiHn2xw https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/self-portrait/-gHQe8...
- Grakel 6y agoThis would be so great if you could download the images. Is there any way to do that?
- chaboud 6y agoI'm disappointed that the illumination is not uniform in the stitch. Artifacts from the sampling and stitching leave subtle bands in the output that I'm fairly confident are not in the original. This is likely a biproduct of using some non-uniform scope-attached illuminator and not having sufficient overlap in their sampling. Nonetheless, when zoomed in, the detail is impressive.
- Tepix 6y agoIndeed, looks like with the illumination at hand there should have been more overlap in the scan process. The original is not striped! Anyway, phantastic piece of art and it's great to have the opportunity to look real close!
- notretarded 6y agoOh, aren't you so clever. Why not contact the author and tell them your suggestions instead of just whinging about it in your armchair. I'm sure that whomever made this work would never have thought of any of the techniques you came up with.
- erdmann 6y agoI worked on this project. The images were indeed captured by a 3D microscope in about 9000 separate captures with non-uniform illumination, so this isn't so much a stitching artifact as it is an illumination artifact. The specular component of the varnish and the different illumination angles of the light sources make it almost impossible to capture a uniformly-colored field without the use of polarization filters, and the best stitching algorithms don't do well with different opinions from multiple images about the color of a pixel (they do fine with different opinions about brightness).
- thomas43 6y agohave you tried to extract the vignetting pattern form the captures and using it to normalize them? My first try would be to calculate the median grayscale image of all 9000 captures and then using this to normalize the intensity.
- supernova87a 6y agoI wonder, for some of the heavy brushstrokes Impressionists, a lidar scan would almost be appropriate. Some of the paintings where the paint is in physical clumps on the canvas, it has its own 3d quality to it that looks different from different angles. I don't think it will get captured with a single image taken from straight on. Like this: https://3dprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/iris.jpg https://3dprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/iris.jpg
- madsbuch 6y agoOn the page orignially linked page, there is actually a link to a 3D presentation of the image: http://hirox-europe.com/PEARL/3D/ http://hirox-europe.com/PEARL/3D/
- dagw 6y agoThat should have been the main link. I found that far more interesting.
- notretarded 6y agoThere's literally a 3D button.
- amelius 6y agoDoes it make sense to look at a painting at a scale at which the original painter couldn't possibly have seen it?
- erdmann 6y agoYes, because the scan is intended to study and document the painter's technique as well as the state of conservation of the paining. Looking into the abraded painting near cracks, for example, we can see a layer structure that is like taking a virtual cross-section of the painting. (I worked on this project and also made the image of Rembrandt's Nightwatch at http://hyper-resolution.org/Nightwatch http://hyper-resolution.org/Nightwatch).
- rektide 6y agoThe painting has also aged & cracked significantly. Does it make sense to look at the painting since it does not look like what the painter originally made? These are parts of the art artifact we have, and there are just lovely amazing details. They capture technique and process wonderfully. I could not be more thrilled to look around these craters & cracks & little particles of paint.
- Koshkin 6y agoI am sure that’s not what Vermeer would have wanted or intended.
- yholio 6y agoI wouldn't sell Vermeer's eyesight so short. The human eye has about 500 Mpixels. In a healthy individual, the central yellow spot of maybe 100 Mpixels can be zoomed in with perfect focus on a spot no larger than a few square cm. Sequentially looking at the painting in small patches from very close, you have a similar order of magnitude for the resolution.
- Koshkin 6y agoThis certainly has little if anything to to with enjoying a piece of art, more of an exercise in microscopy. Imagine looking at the magnified pores in the skin of a lovely face...
- bastih 6y agoGood post to plug the documentary "Tim's Vermeer" ( https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3089388/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3089388/), which is a joy to watch as they try to reverse-engineer the particular style Vermeer painted in.
- vmilner 6y agoYes - I hope the Music Lesson gets a similar scan - if the Queen agrees...
- zamadatix 6y agoIf you click the "3D" button at the bottom you can view a tile in 3D in the browser http://hirox-europe.com/PEARL/3D/ http://hirox-europe.com/PEARL/3D/ That page also has a link to a YouTube video describing what, how, and why they made this scan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKaZYTwmjwU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKaZYTwmjwU
- zappo2938 6y agoThe main page of the microscopes website has a youtube video showing the process.
- unangst 6y agoBrilliant. Looking forward to this new documentation technique for irreplaceable treasures.
- rektide 6y agoFeature request, ability to link to specific spots/zoom levels. Really really dig the 3D view. It's hard to believe it's to scale, but it's soo close in that maybe?!
- malwarebytess 6y agoThis is incredible work. The 3D component is superb. The effort is clearly apparent. I spent half an hour fiddling with the thing before I realized what had happened. This must have significant value to archivists. I want to plug a documentary in which someone invents a tool in an attempt to replicate a Vermeer. The documentary supposes that Vermeer may have used such a tool. It's an interesting cross section of art, engineering, and history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim%27s_Vermeer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim%27s_Vermeer
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- varispeed 6y agoI wish I could see what's between the cracks. That's maybe in 2026?
- jobigoud 6y agoThere are parts under the eyes and on the nose where there is material on top of the cracks. Is this from a restoration effort?