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Do you / how do you remineralize the water? I've heard it leaches minerals from your body if you don't (that's why drinking distilled water long term is also no
by smallnamespace 6y ago
Do you / how do you remineralize the water? I've heard it leaches minerals from your body if you don't (that's why drinking distilled water long term is also not recommended).
- lend000 6y agoAnything that you can't get back through food/typical Vitamin supplements?
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- cerebellum42 6y agoVitamins are a totally different area, this is just about minerals, so basically salts of different types. Sodium, Potassium, Calcium and Magnesium salts are the most relevant ones as far as I know. Any time you drink water that contains lower concentrations of these than your body, you will lose some, as the concentrations equalize. Same thing, just more pronounced. If you drink very large amounts of water in a short time, that can be a serious health hazard, it can lead to hyponatraemia [1]. Distilled water works exactly the same here, but it is more hypotonic, so the required amount to get into problematic areas is probably lower. Short version: Don't drink huge amounts of water (think upwards of 5l) in a short amount of time without replenishing electrolytes, it could kill you. Applies to both "normal" and distilled water, but probably to a slightly lower amount of distilled water. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyponatremia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyponatremia
- daniellarusso 6y agoThere was a nurse in California that died from excessive water consumption after participating in a radio contest to win a Nintendo Wii. https://www.ktre.com/story/5955984/was-it-homicide-water-drinking-stunt-killed-mother-of-three/ https://www.ktre.com/story/5955984/was-it-homicide-water-dri...
- chordalkeyboard 6y agoThats nonsense, water doesn’t leech minerals from your body. Distilled water is safe to drink.
- therein 6y agoYup, also not to mention that you'll continue getting plenty of minerals from the solid food itself that you eat and the water that comes with it. I keep seeing this urban legend about distilled water consumption being bad for you and really wonder when it will be corrected.
- DanBC 6y agoIt's not an urban legend. https://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/nutrientschap12.pdf https://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/nutrientscha...
- patja 6y agoHuh. It is interesting to read this study that claims all kinds of bad things happen with water below 50 ppm TDS. I've been drinking Seattle tap water (under 50 ppm TDS) for over 50 years and have never heard anyone suggest we need to add minerals to our water to avoid these risks, or that our tap water poses any health risks whatsoever.
- cowsandmilk 6y agoWhat is your source for the TDS in Seattle water?
- patja 6y agoIt is pretty common knowledge in the area, especially with all the brewers of beer and coffee who care quite a bit about water composition. The city regularly publishes tests breaking it all down: http://www.seattle.gov/utilities/your-services/water/water-quality/analyses http://www.seattle.gov/utilities/your-services/water/water-q...
- refurb 6y agoWhy would it leech minerals from your body? Your kidneys are more than capable to create an osmotic gradient. And you presumably consume food with mineral. I mean, drinking water doesn’t typically contain potassium but you don’t see people having potassium leeched out of their body.
- p1esk 6y agoI've been drinking distilled water for the last ~15 years, haven't noticed any adverse effects yet.
- jokowueu 6y agoWhat was the reason that drove you to only drinking distilled water ?
- p1esk 6y agoMain reason is the taste. And knowing it’s pure.
- cowsandmilk 6y agoTruly pure water becomes quite acidic quickly, I don’t think your water is as pure as you believe. (For the chemistry here, pure water will absorb CO2, making H2CO3, then splitting into two H+ and a CO3(2-) ions. Since this process release H+ ions, truly pure water becomes acidic on exposure to air.
- fuzzfactor 6y ago>Truly pure water becomes quite acidic quickly >truly pure water becomes acidic on exposure to air. Correct, the carbonate is about impossible to avoid by distillation alone, you need to follow it with point-of-dispensing deionization to get a good blank. Though sometimes the older tradition of freshly boiling distilled stock might still be OK to get rid of CO2. I just don't like stock any more, micro-organisms can change pH more than air and be more insidious. But contact with the ever increasing concentration of CO2 in the air is not going to soon rival the amount of CO2 simply pressured into solution for mineral-free seltzer water. Way more carbonate ion in soluton as well as dissolved CO2 gas. Great to drink straight and not nearly as acidic as orange juice. Can nicely moderate the acidity of orange juice to end up with a refreshing lower-calorie orange soda too. pH is very important but the huge difference is in buffer value where the titratable acidity of the carbonic acid in DI water is insignificant compared to the seltzer. IOW when you take a sip of pure distilled water with no more carbonate than you get from the atmosphere and no other ions either, the pH of that sip takes on almost the exact pH your mouth had beforehand. OTOH when you take a sip of seltzer which is simply pure carbonated water, that sip can make very prominent changes to the pH of your mouth (depending on how different your mouth was at the time). I prefer to do both, repeatedly. But not club soda which as the name implies has sodium like seltzer does not. You can get even more carbonate buffer reserve into the water when you dissolve concentrated minerals like sodium bicarbonate and get true soda water instead of just dissolving CO2 gas under pressure, but for me there's too much sodium coming from too many directions already so I want my carbonation to come without sodium and not be a true "soda".
- powersnail 6y agoI don't think that matters at all. One bite of food would contain more mineral than natural water. Minerals and water are actively regulated by your body; it can deal with pure water just fine.
- DanBC 6y agohttps://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/nutrientschap12.pdf https://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/nutrientscha... > It has been adequately demonstrated that consuming water of low mineral content has a negative effect on homeostasis mechanisms, compromising the mineral and water metabolism in the body. An increase in urine output (i.e., increased diuresis) is associated with an increase in excretion of major intra- and extracellularions from the body fluids, their negative balance, and changes in body water levels and functional activity of some body water management-dependent hormones.Experiments in animals, primarily rats, for up to one-year periods have repeatedly shown that the intake of distilled water or water with TDS ≤ 75 mg/L leads to: 1.) increased water intake, diuresis, extracellular fluid volume, and serum concentrations of sodium (Na) and chloride (Cl) ions and their increased elimination from the body, resulting in an overall negative balance.., and 2.) lower volumes of red cells and some other hematocrit changes (3)
- Dylan16807 6y agoWhere's the effect size? And how bad is something like coffee for comparison?
- firethief 6y agoCoffee is not a diuretic if you consume it regularly
- xiphias2 6y agoSo you just need to put salt in it I guess.
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- konart 6y agoNot the parent commenter but typically (at least here in Russia) filters have cartridges that do this. For example I have this model: https://aquaphor.com/en-us/reverse-osmosis/ro-101 https://aquaphor.com/en-us/reverse-osmosis/ro-101
- DanBC 6y agoWHO says it's easily fixed. https://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/nutrientschap12.pdf https://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/nutrientscha...
- faeyanpiraat 6y agoCould you please comment the relevant part here? I cannot search on mobile.
- scrollaway 6y agoThere are some recommendations for treatment plants at the end in the conclusions.
- graeme 6y agoI just read the whole conclusion section and they don’t have such recommendations there. Pasted below. ————————— V. CONCLUSIONS Drinking water should contain minimum levels of certain essential minerals (and other components such as carbonates). Unfortunately, over the two past decades, little research attention has been given to the beneficial or protective effects of drinking water substances. The main focus has been on the toxicological properties of contaminants. Nevertheless, some studies have attempted to define the minimum content of essential elements or TDS in drinking water, and some countries have included requirements or guidelines for selected substances in their drinking water regulations. The issue is relevant not only where drinking water is obtained by desalination (if not adequately re-mineralised) but also where home treatment or central water treatment reduces the content of important minerals and low-mineral bottled water is consumed. Drinking water manufactured by desalination is stabilized with some minerals, but this is usually not the case for water demineralised as a result of household treatment. Even when stabilized, the final composition of some waters may not be adequate in terms of providing health benefits. Although desalinated waters are supplemented mainly with calcium (lime) or other carbonates, they may be deficient in magnesium and other microelements such as fluorides and potassium. Furthermore, the quantity of calcium that is supplemented is based on technical considerations (i.e., reducing the aggressiveness) rather than on health concerns. Possibly none of the commonly used ways of re-mineralization could be considered optimum, since the water does not contain all of its beneficial components. Current methods of stabilization are primarily intended to decrease the corrosive effects of demineralised water. Demineralised water that has not been remineralized, or low-mineral content water – in the light of the absence or substantial lack of essential minerals in it – is not considered ideal drinking water, and therefore, its regular consumption may not be providing adequate levels of some beneficial nutrients. This chapter provides a rationale for this conclusion. The evidence in terms of experimental effects and findings in human volunteers related to highly demineralised water is mostly found in older studies, some of which may not meet current methodological criteria. However, these findings and conclusions should not be dismissed. Some of these studies were unique, and the intervention studies, although undirected, would hardly be scientifically, financially, or ethically feasible to the same extent today. The methods, however, are not so questionable as to necessarily invalidate their results. The older animal and clinical studies on health risks from drinking demineralised or low-mineral water yielded consistent results both with each other, and recent research has tended to be supportive. Sufficient evidence is now available to confirm the health consequences from drinking water deficient in calcium or magnesium. Many studies show that higher water magnesium is related to decreased risks for CVD and especially for sudden death from CVD. This relationship has been independently described in epidemiological studies with different study designs, performed in different areas, different populations, and at different times. The consistent epidemiological observations are supported by the data from autopsy, clinical, and animal studies. Biological plausibility for a protective effect of magnesium is substantial, but the specificity is less evident due to the multifactorial aetiology of CVD. In addition to an increased risk of sudden death, it has been suggested that intake of water low in magnesium may be associated with a higher risk of motor neuronal disease, pregnancy disorders (so-called preeclampsia), sudden death in infants, and some types of cancer. Recent studies suggest that the intake of soft water, i.e. water low in calcium, is associated with a higher risk of fracture in children, certain neurodegenerative 158 diseases, pre-term birth and low weight at birth and some types of cancer. Furthermore, the possible role of water calcium in the development of CVD cannot be excluded. International and national authorities responsible for drinking water quality should consider guidelines for desalination water treatment, specifying the minimum content of the relevant elements such as calcium and magnesium and TDS. If additional research is required to establish guidelines, authorities should promote targeted research in this field to elaborate the health benefits. If guidelines are established for substances that should be in deminerialised water, authorities should ensure that the guidelines also apply to uses of certain home treatment devices and bottled waters