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It won't be weird. There's http://thedonald.win http://thedonald.win still online and is very active - and they ban/block any counter narratives, hypocritically
by loceng 6y ago
It won't be weird. There's http://thedonald.win http://thedonald.win still online and is very active - and they ban/block any counter narratives, hypocritically "censoring"/blocking like what they're complaining about.
- chrisco255 6y agoThey were forced to move to https://patriots.win/ https://patriots.win/ after losing control of the domain. I think they've built an interesting Reddit alternative with what appears to be a solid effort from a small team. I don't mind topic-based communities that specifically state their goal is to promote an idea or a particular theme and banning off-topic content. If they create a general Politics community and then proceed to do that, yes, that would be hypocritical. Facebook and Twitter have always branded themselves as trying to connect the world. And now they (along with other big tech cos) have grown actively hostile to the half of the U.S. at least that considers themselves conservative. That's a big issue.
- SpicyLemonZest 6y agoIs there any concrete metric by which you'd say Facebook is hostile to the conservative half of the US? The top-performing links on Facebook are consistently conservative, as are many of the members of this Oversight Board.
- maxerickson 6y agoAre they allowed to post whatever they want on Facebook?
- SpicyLemonZest 6y agoI regularly see people from across the political spectrum insist that Facebook censors their speech while allowing their political opponents to say anything. They can't all be right, although they could all be wrong. So I'm not sure any sort of subjective account is really going to help me figure out the difference.
- loceng 6y agoI think we need to start requiring people to be more specific: what speech of theirs is being deleted/moderated - is it lies, hate, violence? They should show exactly what's being deleted/moderated, show us and then we can have conversation with depth to it.
- loceng 6y agoThat isn't specifically targeting conservatives though - causation vs. correlation.
- chrischattin 6y agoLol, the President of the United States was banned? What metric do you need?
- SpicyLemonZest 6y agoI need a metric a lot better than "lol", because I know lots of people who think it's obvious that Facebook is biased in favor of conservatives. (If it weren't, they say, the president would have been banned sooner.)
- rsynnott 6y agoIf anything, the fact that he _wasn't_ banned until recently despite indulging in behaviour that would get any normal person banned could be read as evidence to the contrary (though I don't think it _should_ be; both Twitter and Facebook have an IMO misguided policy that national leaders should be handled with kid gloves and allowed do pretty much anything).
- cs2818 6y agoJust a note that they recently moved to patriots.win, as the owner of their original domain split with them. I haven’t had much time to study their moderation/censoring practices yet, but have been visiting occasionally out of curiosity.