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This is really a fight over money between Rupert Murdoch's Fox/Newscorp Empire and Google. A win-win situation for Australia would be for Google to withdraw fr

This is really a fight over money between Rupert Murdoch's Fox/Newscorp Empire and Google. A win-win situation for Australia would be for Google to withdraw from Australia and Rupert to not get any money from Google.

aaplok 6y ago
The article claims that the ABC would benefit from deals with Google, but wasn't the ABC (and SBS) expressly excluded from the law? It's clear that it is a lobby vs lobby situation. Murdoch is a king maker. He will likely prevail. I am not as optimistic about a positive outcome for Australians.
- joshschreuder 6y ago
  I believe they were, due to them being publicly funded. Which is to say nothing of the fact that such public funding has been continuously stripped back under Liberal governments (while continuing to give investment to Foxtel, a private company owned by, guess who, old mate Rupert)
fakedang 6y ago
Does it matter if Rupert doesn't get money from Google? His news assets still have print versions, his channels still have media versions, and if Google exits, they'll just concede the entire Aus market to Bing/DDG. Sure the people won't like it, but the more Google actually goes through with its threat, the more evidence it will provide for an antitrust case back home.
- silexia 6y ago
  I disagree, Google is not making a threat and is not abusing its market position. A search engine simply cannot exist if it is required to pay for links to content. Rupert Murdoch and his corporations are incredibly damaging to Australia and to the USA. We should oppose his lobbying efforts everywhere we can. I think Google is now no longer a good company, but it is not nearly as bad as Fox News or Comcast or other companies that truly abuse their market position. The one area that Google does actually abuse is Google Ads, the auction system there is basically a scam against small business unfortunately.
  - fakedang 6y ago
    A search engine can also simply post titles and links, without indexing content. Google is much worse than Fox News. At least Fox News doesn't harvest my information when I browse CNN and target ads at me. Not to mention the stuff Google does while lobbying without our knowledge. Google is 92% ads, so if it abuses that portion, it's abusing 92% of its business monopolistically.

aaplok 6y ago

The article claims that the ABC would benefit from deals with Google, but wasn't the ABC (and SBS) expressly excluded from the law? It's clear that it is a lobby vs lobby situation. Murdoch is a king maker. He will likely prevail. I am not as optimistic about a positive outcome for Australians.

joshschreuder 6y ago
I believe they were, due to them being publicly funded. Which is to say nothing of the fact that such public funding has been continuously stripped back under Liberal governments (while continuing to give investment to Foxtel, a private company owned by, guess who, old mate Rupert)

fakedang 6y ago

Does it matter if Rupert doesn't get money from Google? His news assets still have print versions, his channels still have media versions, and if Google exits, they'll just concede the entire Aus market to Bing/DDG. Sure the people won't like it, but the more Google actually goes through with its threat, the more evidence it will provide for an antitrust case back home.

silexia 6y ago
I disagree, Google is not making a threat and is not abusing its market position. A search engine simply cannot exist if it is required to pay for links to content. Rupert Murdoch and his corporations are incredibly damaging to Australia and to the USA. We should oppose his lobbying efforts everywhere we can. I think Google is now no longer a good company, but it is not nearly as bad as Fox News or Comcast or other companies that truly abuse their market position. The one area that Google does actually abuse is Google Ads, the auction system there is basically a scam against small business unfortunately.
- fakedang 6y ago
  A search engine can also simply post titles and links, without indexing content. Google is much worse than Fox News. At least Fox News doesn't harvest my information when I browse CNN and target ads at me. Not to mention the stuff Google does while lobbying without our knowledge. Google is 92% ads, so if it abuses that portion, it's abusing 92% of its business monopolistically.