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This will become relevant to me when I can buy a second hand, fully-electric vehicle for $5000-7500.

by dannyw 6y ago

toomuchtodo 6y ago
Used Nissan Leafs and Bolts are abundant at that price point. Assume it’ll be a while before Teslas reach that used price point, eventually they will though.
- Scoundreller 6y ago
  Leafs are problematic because they lacked battery thermal management.
  - whalesalad 6y ago
    Someone in my neighborhood has a leaf with the license plate NORANGE
  - cptskippy 6y ago
    Eh... yes but no. The lizard battery chemistry introduced around 2014 addressed a lot of the issues with degradation and those issues really only came up in climates like Arizona and Texas with punishing heat. Unless you're driving a lot during extreme heat waves or DC Fast Charging regularly, you'll be fine in most climates. Thermal Management Systems are definitely better but it's not really problematic.
    - throwawayboise 6y ago
      How much range do you lose when it's 15 degrees and you have to park outside? And you need to heat the interior?
      - cptskippy 6y ago
        From my experience, cold doesn't really impact the range in an appreciable way. Driving habits, mood, and behavior have more of an impact on the range than anything else. I have a 2015 with a heat pump, heated seats, and heated steering wheel so it takes very little to get comfortable. And it gets comfortable about 15 minutes faster than my old 2007 Honda Accord did. I can't speak for the 2nd Gen models but the 1st Gen models with the Sat Nav infotainment have a power monitor screen that shows how much power systems are drawing and how much range you gain when shutting them down. I've never seen a gain of more than 5 miles when 100% charged, it's usually 2 miles. Only one time have I been in a situation where that mattered and it was entirely my own fault. Another thing to consider is, that unless your commute consumes the entire range of the vehicle then it doesn't really matter as long as you can charge every night. I use to have a 50 mile round trip commute and I would charge on a regular 120v circuit every night when I got home, I never had issues. If I needed to run an errand I could plug the car in at work and come out with 100% charge at the end of the day.
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radium3d 6y ago
You can get a 120 mile range 2016 eGolf for a great price right now. Check it out. Bolt's are also going for very low cost ~$16-17k just a couple years old now.
- throwawayboise 6y ago
  $16,000 is 4x what I paid for my last car, a big comfortable Volvo.
  - radium3d 6y ago
    How much money went to burnt gas instead of your next car since you bought it though?

This will become relevant to me when I can buy a second hand, fully-electric vehicle for $5000-7500.

by dannyw 6y ago

This will become relevant to me when I can buy a second hand, fully-electric vehicle for $5000-7500.

Used Nissan Leafs and Bolts are abundant at that price point. Assume it’ll be a while before Teslas reach that used price point, eventually they will though.

Scoundreller 6y ago
Leafs are problematic because they lacked battery thermal management.
- whalesalad 6y ago
  Someone in my neighborhood has a leaf with the license plate NORANGE
- cptskippy 6y ago
  Eh... yes but no. The lizard battery chemistry introduced around 2014 addressed a lot of the issues with degradation and those issues really only came up in climates like Arizona and Texas with punishing heat. Unless you're driving a lot during extreme heat waves or DC Fast Charging regularly, you'll be fine in most climates. Thermal Management Systems are definitely better but it's not really problematic.
  - throwawayboise 6y ago
    How much range do you lose when it's 15 degrees and you have to park outside? And you need to heat the interior?
    - cptskippy 6y ago
      From my experience, cold doesn't really impact the range in an appreciable way. Driving habits, mood, and behavior have more of an impact on the range than anything else. I have a 2015 with a heat pump, heated seats, and heated steering wheel so it takes very little to get comfortable. And it gets comfortable about 15 minutes faster than my old 2007 Honda Accord did. I can't speak for the 2nd Gen models but the 1st Gen models with the Sat Nav infotainment have a power monitor screen that shows how much power systems are drawing and how much range you gain when shutting them down. I've never seen a gain of more than 5 miles when 100% charged, it's usually 2 miles. Only one time have I been in a situation where that mattered and it was entirely my own fault. Another thing to consider is, that unless your commute consumes the entire range of the vehicle then it doesn't really matter as long as you can charge every night. I use to have a 50 mile round trip commute and I would charge on a regular 120v circuit every night when I got home, I never had issues. If I needed to run an errand I could plug the car in at work and come out with 100% charge at the end of the day.

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radium3d 6y ago

You can get a 120 mile range 2016 eGolf for a great price right now. Check it out. Bolt's are also going for very low cost ~$16-17k just a couple years old now.

throwawayboise 6y ago
$16,000 is 4x what I paid for my last car, a big comfortable Volvo.
- radium3d 6y ago
  How much money went to burnt gas instead of your next car since you bought it though?