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As someone working on ship design for a few decades I can attest that this site is an amazing resource for whacky concepts and also new concepts, internationall

As someone working on ship design for a few decades I can attest that this site is an amazing resource for whacky concepts and also new concepts, internationally, that were/are being experimented with but were/are fairly under wraps. I have no idea where the owner gets the info from - probably scraped off of remote corners of the web (non-english posts), but a few times a year someone sends me a link to this site and something inevitably blows my mind. A lot of times very good concepts are abandoned due to a technology gap (e.g. control computers, materials limits, etc.) that no longer exist. I think our industry likely owes a great deal of debt to the site owner for helping to consolidate and document this history so we don't waste time/money reinventing the wheel (saving us from iterative condemnation).

ranger207 6y ago
IIRC he does all of his original art in Paint too.
sandworm101 6y ago
It looks like Russians send him stuff. Nothing really classified, but things like the photos of desktop models seem to come from people visiting various offices or agencies. Some Russian military facilities also run unofficial tours (whatever pays the bills) resulting in photos of stuff that would normally be behind locked doors/gates. His satellite imagery is all unclassified, mostly stuff available via google. You just have to know what you are looking at. Covert Shores has such a reputation in the maritime community that he could probably just knock on the door and get a tour of their non-classified material. Old/scrapped subs are often just sitting on bases forgotten.
samstave 6y ago
I've always wondered how one gets into ship design... I worked with a guy who was a technology designer for billionaire level yachts, David Person - he worked on both of Larry Ellison's yachts (and houses) - but the yachts were made in Germany.. but how does one actually become a ship designer?
- s5300 6y ago
  I'd presume in this modern time most are probably born with the connections, but aside from that... probably attempting to cold-contact everybody related to the profession you can find?
- jasonwatkinspdx 6y ago
  Naval Architecture is a degree at quite a few schools around the world. A lot of people seem to learn on the job though under apprenticeship like relationships.
  - caycep 6y ago
    MIT has some amazing exhibits of this stuff in one of their main buildings; not sure if they still have that degree offered. I want to say US MMA or something like that might have a program.
    - mojomark 6y ago
      The industry is big, but sometimes feels small. Ships are mini-cities, so it takes all types of engineers: -Naval Architect - (Specializes in hull form design and structures.) -Marine Systems Engineering - (all about the machinery plant design to make the ship move) ME's and Navarchs work side-by-side. Here is a list of schools with Navarch and Marine Engineering degrees [1] Webb and USMMA (i.e. Kings Point) folks are all over the forefront of this industry. These are the primary degrees. If you search the above two job postings, you will find plenty of companies working in Ship Design. These degrees will give a decent treatment to all of the fields needed to succeed in ship design. Other specialists we work with: -Electrical Engineering -Hydrodynamicists -RF & Network Engineering (for C4I systems) -Mechanical Engineer -Data Science (demand increasing rapidly with the emergence of unmanned shipping) -Physics (especially thermodynamics) or Math -Materials Science -Mechatronics/Robotics -Logistics/Supply chain -Reliability Engineering -Shipyard (Production) Management -Simulations and Game developers The list really does go on... I work with a mechanichal engineer who worked for an elevator design firm before entering our industry and they're one of the best 'marine engineers' I've worked with. Most everyone understands they don't know everything, and new perspectives are the womb of creativity, so people with varied backgrounds are welcomed. Type of companies to look for: 1.) Defense contractors (e.g. General Dynamics, BAE, Gibbs & Cox, Gen. Atomics, many MANY more) 2.) Private Navarch/Marine Engineering firms 3.) Shipyards (NASSCO, HII, China Shipbuilding Industry Corp, Hyundai Heavy Industries, etc.) 4.) Cruiselines, Ferry lines and other commercial ship owners 5.) Workboat companies, and Offshore (e.g. oil) Industry 6.) Smaller yacht, racing craft, pleasure craft designers/builders. 1. https://www.google.com/search?q=schools+with+naval+architecture+programs&oq=schools+with+naval+&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0j0i457j0i22i30l2.6437j0j9&client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=tlexp&htiq=schools%20with%20naval%20architecture%20programs https://www.google.com/search?q=schools+with+naval+architect... P.S. - I'm in dire need of a solid data scientist (big data analytics/sensitivity anaysis, model building), so if someone's interested, send me your contact info.

ranger207 6y ago

IIRC he does all of his original art in Paint too.

sandworm101 6y ago

It looks like Russians send him stuff. Nothing really classified, but things like the photos of desktop models seem to come from people visiting various offices or agencies. Some Russian military facilities also run unofficial tours (whatever pays the bills) resulting in photos of stuff that would normally be behind locked doors/gates. His satellite imagery is all unclassified, mostly stuff available via google. You just have to know what you are looking at. Covert Shores has such a reputation in the maritime community that he could probably just knock on the door and get a tour of their non-classified material. Old/scrapped subs are often just sitting on bases forgotten.

samstave 6y ago

I've always wondered how one gets into ship design... I worked with a guy who was a technology designer for billionaire level yachts, David Person - he worked on both of Larry Ellison's yachts (and houses) - but the yachts were made in Germany.. but how does one actually become a ship designer?

s5300 6y ago
I'd presume in this modern time most are probably born with the connections, but aside from that... probably attempting to cold-contact everybody related to the profession you can find?
jasonwatkinspdx 6y ago
Naval Architecture is a degree at quite a few schools around the world. A lot of people seem to learn on the job though under apprenticeship like relationships.
- caycep 6y ago
  MIT has some amazing exhibits of this stuff in one of their main buildings; not sure if they still have that degree offered. I want to say US MMA or something like that might have a program.
  - mojomark 6y ago
    The industry is big, but sometimes feels small. Ships are mini-cities, so it takes all types of engineers: -Naval Architect - (Specializes in hull form design and structures.) -Marine Systems Engineering - (all about the machinery plant design to make the ship move) ME's and Navarchs work side-by-side. Here is a list of schools with Navarch and Marine Engineering degrees [1] Webb and USMMA (i.e. Kings Point) folks are all over the forefront of this industry. These are the primary degrees. If you search the above two job postings, you will find plenty of companies working in Ship Design. These degrees will give a decent treatment to all of the fields needed to succeed in ship design. Other specialists we work with: -Electrical Engineering -Hydrodynamicists -RF & Network Engineering (for C4I systems) -Mechanical Engineer -Data Science (demand increasing rapidly with the emergence of unmanned shipping) -Physics (especially thermodynamics) or Math -Materials Science -Mechatronics/Robotics -Logistics/Supply chain -Reliability Engineering -Shipyard (Production) Management -Simulations and Game developers The list really does go on... I work with a mechanichal engineer who worked for an elevator design firm before entering our industry and they're one of the best 'marine engineers' I've worked with. Most everyone understands they don't know everything, and new perspectives are the womb of creativity, so people with varied backgrounds are welcomed. Type of companies to look for: 1.) Defense contractors (e.g. General Dynamics, BAE, Gibbs & Cox, Gen. Atomics, many MANY more) 2.) Private Navarch/Marine Engineering firms 3.) Shipyards (NASSCO, HII, China Shipbuilding Industry Corp, Hyundai Heavy Industries, etc.) 4.) Cruiselines, Ferry lines and other commercial ship owners 5.) Workboat companies, and Offshore (e.g. oil) Industry 6.) Smaller yacht, racing craft, pleasure craft designers/builders. 1. https://www.google.com/search?q=schools+with+naval+architecture+programs&oq=schools+with+naval+&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0j0i457j0i22i30l2.6437j0j9&client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=tlexp&htiq=schools%20with%20naval%20architecture%20programs https://www.google.com/search?q=schools+with+naval+architect... P.S. - I'm in dire need of a solid data scientist (big data analytics/sensitivity anaysis, model building), so if someone's interested, send me your contact info.