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Are workers even able to get a vaccine any time soon? Right now it seems only healthcare workers and >65s are eligible.

by u678u 6y ago

BoorishBears 6y ago
Here in NYC many more groups are currently qualified to get it
- jmkb 6y ago
  In particular, the current NYC vaccination phase includes all "public-facing" grocery store workers (but not restaurant workers!) Not sure how that plays with stores like Dollar General, which carry some groceries. Don't believe there are any Dollar Generals in NYC, but what about the bodega workers?
gedy 6y ago
Depends on the state/area. Southern California is still healthcare and 75+ from what I've looked at.
- slg 6y ago
  Not sure about all of Southern California, but LA County is down to 65+.
runako 6y ago
"Essential workers" are in the next group to be eligible, so now is a valid time to plan for their uptake.
- Someone1234 6y ago
  This is very much state-by-state, it definitely isn't true here. In fact "Essential Workers" aren't even carved out as their own group here, just general pop/everyone else.
  - runako 6y ago
    CDC has recommended groupings: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommend... I would imagine that as we get further into the effort, most/all states will end up doing something like this. And in any case, the companies in the article will be prepared for rollout to general population.
    - brutal_chaos_ 6y ago
      Oregonian here. We saw that and said no. 65+, educators, then all others from the last update I saw. Also, retail is open and workers aren't considered essential-that's just wrong on so many levels.
jsight 6y ago
In some places, it is still 70+. The original CDC guidelines put workers in firefighters, grocery store workers, postal workers, and other essential jobs in front of more elderly workers. Most states aren't strictly abiding by this guidance, but it does mean that these workers are eligible in some states.
perardi 6y ago
Define “soon”. It seems like February will have a bit of a vaccine supply drought. But Pfizer and Moderna are scaling up, and hopefully the Johnson & Johnson vaccine gets approval and gets past initial production hiccups. So, maybe hope for March for jabs for “front-line” workers? Warehouse workers, bus drivers, cashiers…
- selykg 6y ago
  hoping the Johnson and Johnson one gets approved quickly and can ramp up. 1 shot versus 2 is a serious win in terms of getting more people fully vaccinated.
drewg123 6y ago
My state is moving on to phase 1b, which includes "those at increased risk of exposure or serious illness" The irony is that this includes people with self-induced risks, like smoking. I'm wondering how many people will either falsely claim to smoke, or even just start smoking to skip to the front of the line..
- foolfoolz 6y ago
  at this point who really cares? the amount of doses given is like 35% of the inventory. we should give it to anyone who wants it before these lots expire
- ch4s3 6y ago
  > The irony is that this includes people with self-induced risks, like smoking. Why? Isn't part of the point to keep bodies out of ICU beds? > I'm wondering how many people will either falsely claim to smoke, or even just start smoking to skip to the front of the line. Probably some, but you're risking increased insurance premiums for years to come if you insurance company finds out.
- mancerayder 6y ago
  In NJ you can be a smoker and automatically qualify. Yes, we know that smoking increases dangers from Covid-19. There is, however, a self-induced aspect that makes it at least worth discussing as a valid policy. And let me add that anyone can suddenly become a smoker right beforehand to qualify. You can't deny it's at the very least awkward social policy.
protomyth 6y ago
We are at the "50+" grouping. The elders and essential workers already go their shots. For reference, reservation in ND with the Moderna vaccine.
vondur 6y ago
I think this is a California policy. Other states are doing it differently. And even here in California, some counties are doing a better job then others in getting it out. I knew one person who had an appointment to get the vaccine in Los Angeles County, and then showed up to be told the wait time was 8 hours. Orange County seems to be doing a better job at the distribution.
- deleted 6y ago
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Are workers even able to get a vaccine any time soon? Right now it seems only healthcare workers and >65s are eligible.

by u678u 6y ago

Are workers even able to get a vaccine any time soon? Right now it seems only healthcare workers and >65s are eligible.

BoorishBears 6y ago

Here in NYC many more groups are currently qualified to get it

jmkb 6y ago
In particular, the current NYC vaccination phase includes all "public-facing" grocery store workers (but not restaurant workers!) Not sure how that plays with stores like Dollar General, which carry some groceries. Don't believe there are any Dollar Generals in NYC, but what about the bodega workers?

gedy 6y ago

Depends on the state/area. Southern California is still healthcare and 75+ from what I've looked at.

slg 6y ago
Not sure about all of Southern California, but LA County is down to 65+.

runako 6y ago

"Essential workers" are in the next group to be eligible, so now is a valid time to plan for their uptake.

Someone1234 6y ago
This is very much state-by-state, it definitely isn't true here. In fact "Essential Workers" aren't even carved out as their own group here, just general pop/everyone else.
- runako 6y ago
  CDC has recommended groupings: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommend... I would imagine that as we get further into the effort, most/all states will end up doing something like this. And in any case, the companies in the article will be prepared for rollout to general population.
  - brutal_chaos_ 6y ago
    Oregonian here. We saw that and said no. 65+, educators, then all others from the last update I saw. Also, retail is open and workers aren't considered essential-that's just wrong on so many levels.

jsight 6y ago

In some places, it is still 70+. The original CDC guidelines put workers in firefighters, grocery store workers, postal workers, and other essential jobs in front of more elderly workers. Most states aren't strictly abiding by this guidance, but it does mean that these workers are eligible in some states.

perardi 6y ago

Define “soon”. It seems like February will have a bit of a vaccine supply drought. But Pfizer and Moderna are scaling up, and hopefully the Johnson & Johnson vaccine gets approval and gets past initial production hiccups. So, maybe hope for March for jabs for “front-line” workers? Warehouse workers, bus drivers, cashiers…

selykg 6y ago
hoping the Johnson and Johnson one gets approved quickly and can ramp up. 1 shot versus 2 is a serious win in terms of getting more people fully vaccinated.

drewg123 6y ago

My state is moving on to phase 1b, which includes "those at increased risk of exposure or serious illness" The irony is that this includes people with self-induced risks, like smoking. I'm wondering how many people will either falsely claim to smoke, or even just start smoking to skip to the front of the line..

foolfoolz 6y ago
at this point who really cares? the amount of doses given is like 35% of the inventory. we should give it to anyone who wants it before these lots expire
ch4s3 6y ago
> The irony is that this includes people with self-induced risks, like smoking. Why? Isn't part of the point to keep bodies out of ICU beds? > I'm wondering how many people will either falsely claim to smoke, or even just start smoking to skip to the front of the line. Probably some, but you're risking increased insurance premiums for years to come if you insurance company finds out.
mancerayder 6y ago
In NJ you can be a smoker and automatically qualify. Yes, we know that smoking increases dangers from Covid-19. There is, however, a self-induced aspect that makes it at least worth discussing as a valid policy. And let me add that anyone can suddenly become a smoker right beforehand to qualify. You can't deny it's at the very least awkward social policy.

protomyth 6y ago

We are at the "50+" grouping. The elders and essential workers already go their shots. For reference, reservation in ND with the Moderna vaccine.

vondur 6y ago

I think this is a California policy. Other states are doing it differently. And even here in California, some counties are doing a better job then others in getting it out. I knew one person who had an appointment to get the vaccine in Los Angeles County, and then showed up to be told the wait time was 8 hours. Orange County seems to be doing a better job at the distribution.

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