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I know this is hacker news but I think an article/review like this is the perfect opportunity to point out the continued injustices being committed against the

I know this is hacker news but I think an article/review like this is the perfect opportunity to point out the continued injustices being committed against the people native to the land that is now the USA. After a genocide and several centuries of discrimination, the American government continues to enact and enforce policies that lead to abject poverty on native reservations[1]. The relationship between the US government and native tribes is a disgusting example of how our elected officials have leveraged their power systemically against a minority group and abuses continue to this day[2]. These aren't just people in folk lore stories, they are living tribes condemned to poverty in barren swaths of land by our government. In Colorado there is still a monument at the capitol in Denver and a prominent mountain named after one of the men that orchestrated the Sand Creek Massacre, an undeniably disgusting and heinous moment in our history. [1]https://www.indigenouspeoples-sdg.org/index.php/english/ttt/536-5-ways-the-government-keeps-native-americans-in-poverty https://www.indigenouspeoples-sdg.org/index.php/english/ttt/... [2]https://www.vox.com/first-person/2019/9/23/20872713/native-american-indian-treaties https://www.vox.com/first-person/2019/9/23/20872713/native-a...

slumpt_ 6y ago
Thank you for posting this. It’s pretty heinous that you’re being downvoted for this. Lot of work ahead of us, it seems
bpodgursky 6y ago
You undermine your own case by calling out federal injustices, but only citing as concrete instances of discriminatory policies the presence of symbolic monuments and names.
- boomboomsubban 6y ago
  The cite two sources showing far greater injustice than a monuments name.
protomyth 6y ago
Maybe if folks would ignore the symbolic distractions (statues and holidays) and actually put effort into fixing IHS then things would actually get better. The statue isn't killing anyone, but poor health care is. How about put some effort into housing so large family units aren't cramped in a house when a plague hits, and maybe when picking colleges to partner with, you pick a Tribal Community College (TCU). Maybe actually report how many enrolled developers or executives work for your company instead of putting them in other. Maybe shame people with no enrollment who steal scholarships or positions that are set aside. Maybe understand that a lot of Native Americans start college late and stop holding that against them.
- fermienrico 6y ago
  Those who make change and those who make a lot of noise are both arguably necessary, usually separate groups of people. The latter unfortunately have perverse incentives, mostly gaining virtue points on social media. They get their little boost of self fulfilling ideology. Boots on the ground folks need to be celebrated and usually don’t need the virtue signaling masses - they’re stern men and women driven by righteousness.
  - protomyth 6y ago
    Nope, those who make a lot of noise take up all the oxygen and brag they did something when they did nothing and often leave a worse situation since they scare off the people who could help. Changing your Twitter picture doesn't fix the problem, and awareness is only useful if followed by action.
    - watwut 6y ago
      The two groups are in much less dichotomy then you make it to be. Neither group takes away from the other and besides, people can walk and chew at the same time. They themselves complain about each other significantly less then people who dont engage with neither of those issues (But who like to use the other group to criticize the first one without engaging with history)
joveian 6y ago
Your first link, while it seems to be a UN organization's web site, is a repost of an article from Forbes magazine. https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/03/13/5-ways-the-government-keeps-native-americans-in-poverty/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/03/13/5-ways-the-... "Shawn Regan is a research fellow at the Property and Environment Research Center (PERC)”. https://perc.org/about-us/ https://perc.org/about-us/ "Founded in 1980 by a handful of outdoor-oriented economists in Bozeman, Montana, PERC—the Property and Environment Research Center—is a conservation and research institute dedicated to free market environmentalism." Free market environmentalism does not describe the position of most tribes in the US and I'm fairly sure that the vast majority consider allotment one of the major injustices and not something to repeat. Many tribes have been working to repurchase land that was lost due to allotment.

slumpt_ 6y ago

Thank you for posting this. It’s pretty heinous that you’re being downvoted for this. Lot of work ahead of us, it seems

bpodgursky 6y ago

You undermine your own case by calling out federal injustices, but only citing as concrete instances of discriminatory policies the presence of symbolic monuments and names.

boomboomsubban 6y ago
The cite two sources showing far greater injustice than a monuments name.

protomyth 6y ago

Maybe if folks would ignore the symbolic distractions (statues and holidays) and actually put effort into fixing IHS then things would actually get better. The statue isn't killing anyone, but poor health care is. How about put some effort into housing so large family units aren't cramped in a house when a plague hits, and maybe when picking colleges to partner with, you pick a Tribal Community College (TCU). Maybe actually report how many enrolled developers or executives work for your company instead of putting them in other. Maybe shame people with no enrollment who steal scholarships or positions that are set aside. Maybe understand that a lot of Native Americans start college late and stop holding that against them.

fermienrico 6y ago
Those who make change and those who make a lot of noise are both arguably necessary, usually separate groups of people. The latter unfortunately have perverse incentives, mostly gaining virtue points on social media. They get their little boost of self fulfilling ideology. Boots on the ground folks need to be celebrated and usually don’t need the virtue signaling masses - they’re stern men and women driven by righteousness.
- protomyth 6y ago
  Nope, those who make a lot of noise take up all the oxygen and brag they did something when they did nothing and often leave a worse situation since they scare off the people who could help. Changing your Twitter picture doesn't fix the problem, and awareness is only useful if followed by action.
  - watwut 6y ago
    The two groups are in much less dichotomy then you make it to be. Neither group takes away from the other and besides, people can walk and chew at the same time. They themselves complain about each other significantly less then people who dont engage with neither of those issues (But who like to use the other group to criticize the first one without engaging with history)

joveian 6y ago

Your first link, while it seems to be a UN organization's web site, is a repost of an article from Forbes magazine. https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/03/13/5-ways-the-government-keeps-native-americans-in-poverty/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/03/13/5-ways-the-... "Shawn Regan is a research fellow at the Property and Environment Research Center (PERC)”. https://perc.org/about-us/ https://perc.org/about-us/ "Founded in 1980 by a handful of outdoor-oriented economists in Bozeman, Montana, PERC—the Property and Environment Research Center—is a conservation and research institute dedicated to free market environmentalism." Free market environmentalism does not describe the position of most tribes in the US and I'm fairly sure that the vast majority consider allotment one of the major injustices and not something to repeat. Many tribes have been working to repurchase land that was lost due to allotment.