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You’re in a public place, have no reasonable expectation to privacy, and the recording is not intrusive, so perfectly legal.

lights0123 6y ago
"quite a few places" can mean "not the US".
harperlee 6y ago
At least in Spain* it does not work like that, there are very stringent limitations on what you can record on the street, e.g. through dashcams or tesla sentinel mode: https://www.aepd.es/sites/default/files/2019-09/informe-juridico-rgpd-camaras-on-board.pdf https://www.aepd.es/sites/default/files/2019-09/informe-juri... For example, you can't use dashcam recordings of an accident in trial. * And I don't want to spend a bunch of time reading law but quite sure this is very tied in with GDPR, so I'd say that most probably in all Europe everything you record on the street is still subject to the privacy rights of whomever you record.
- andai 6y ago
  > you can't use dashcam recordings of an accident in trial. Doesn't this entirely defeat the purpose of having a dashcam?
  - dharmab 6y ago
    No, because an insurance claim is usually not a trial.
  - sml156 6y ago
    For most people yes, If your willing to take matters into your own hands no.
- akadruid1 6y ago
  I don't think it's always part how GDPR is implemented in national laws. I believe it's admissable in court here in the UK, certainly my dashcam footage of a crash caused by a drink driver in 2019 was collected as evidence by police officers at the scene.
  - harperlee 6y ago
    In Europe there are directives and regulations, and the former get transposed into local law, whereas regulations apply directly. The R in GDPR comes from regulation :)
- TwoBit 6y ago
  > you can't use dashcam recordings of an accident in trial. What's the rationale to that? Concern over manipulated videos? That would seem dumb if the video files are transferred at the accident (which happens in USA).
  - harperlee 6y ago
    You can’t record people without their consent, I believe. No idea about the limitations of this for e.g. security cameras! But I’m sure for dashcams.
xboxnolifes 6y ago
many places cars are stationary are not public places, and still visible to pedestrians.

lights0123 6y ago

"quite a few places" can mean "not the US".

harperlee 6y ago

At least in Spain* it does not work like that, there are very stringent limitations on what you can record on the street, e.g. through dashcams or tesla sentinel mode: https://www.aepd.es/sites/default/files/2019-09/informe-juridico-rgpd-camaras-on-board.pdf https://www.aepd.es/sites/default/files/2019-09/informe-juri... For example, you can't use dashcam recordings of an accident in trial. * And I don't want to spend a bunch of time reading law but quite sure this is very tied in with GDPR, so I'd say that most probably in all Europe everything you record on the street is still subject to the privacy rights of whomever you record.

andai 6y ago
> you can't use dashcam recordings of an accident in trial. Doesn't this entirely defeat the purpose of having a dashcam?
- dharmab 6y ago
  No, because an insurance claim is usually not a trial.
- sml156 6y ago
  For most people yes, If your willing to take matters into your own hands no.
akadruid1 6y ago
I don't think it's always part how GDPR is implemented in national laws. I believe it's admissable in court here in the UK, certainly my dashcam footage of a crash caused by a drink driver in 2019 was collected as evidence by police officers at the scene.
- harperlee 6y ago
  In Europe there are directives and regulations, and the former get transposed into local law, whereas regulations apply directly. The R in GDPR comes from regulation :)
TwoBit 6y ago
> you can't use dashcam recordings of an accident in trial. What's the rationale to that? Concern over manipulated videos? That would seem dumb if the video files are transferred at the accident (which happens in USA).
- harperlee 6y ago
  You can’t record people without their consent, I believe. No idea about the limitations of this for e.g. security cameras! But I’m sure for dashcams.

xboxnolifes 6y ago

many places cars are stationary are not public places, and still visible to pedestrians.